The R7 finally solves Canon’s 4K 60fps dilemma

• Able1039 wrote:

Markr041 wrote:

Able1039 wrote:

I’ve been desperately trying to find a reliable way to shoot 4K 60 in a small form a factor. The Canon cameras that offer 4K 60fps are listed below with their weaknesses.

R6- beautiful but overheats

R5- overheats. Adding Atomos Ninja makes it cumbersome

R5 C- chews through a battery in 30 minutes. Adding battery grip makes cumbersome

C70- crop sensor, large body

IDX and R3 - price and size

I usually film skateboarding events at 1080p 60fps but this weekend I decided to bump it up to 4K 60p on my R6. There were 3 events with an hour cool down in between. I got about 30 minutes each event of 4K 60 until it overheated and the rest was shot full HD. When I finally edited the video this weekend I was stunned at how good the 4K 60p was. Crispy, able to slow mo, add stabilization in post, crop in… it was a dream come true. I couldn’t fathom going back to simply full HD. Here’s what I shot

https://youtu.be/CIednx5xS9M

All week I’ve been trying to figure out a solution to shoot more 4K 60p with Canon and kept running into issue after issue. I was particularly disappointed with the R5C. I shoot weddings as well and needed a B and C camera for ceremonies that shoot 4K and most importantly a 4K 60p camera for dreamy slow motion shot with a Ronin S. The only viable option I’ve found is the R7. I figure I’ll connect it to my Ronin, pop on my Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and I’ve got an equivalent 28-56mm f2.8. Not bad.
I’m just sharing my experience with guys just in case someone else is going through the same dilemma I am. A 4K 60p camera that doesn’t overheat* is a good sign for Canon. Makes me hopeful for the R5 and R6 Mark ii

Any similar stories, insights and disagreements are welcomed below

I am not a Sony fan boy, and shoot a lot of video with the R5. I also shoot skateboarders.

But if you are serious about slow motion and video quality, then the Sony fx3 or a7s iii is better than any of the Canon offerings. They shoot 4K 60p and 4K 120P with no overheating (fx3), no line skipping, and full frame.

Here is a skateboarding example shot in 4K 120p:

https://youtu.be/wb07_yXaKJk

The GoPro Hero 10 also shoots high quality 4K 120p, and gives you a wide perspective you may need - in your video in many of your shots you cut off subjects because you are too close or not zooming or panning fast enough. Zooming is really important for following action, and many Sony zoom llenses are near parfocal. A crop camera (APS-C) makes shooting fast action more difficult.

I appreciate your input on Sony camera models. The A7S iii is one I debated switching to.

thanks for the critique, but I think I know a thing or two about shooting skateboarding.
I’ve run a skate magazine for over 5 years.

https://www.ableskatemag.com

The style of filming in the video I posted was on purpose. It was more about the skaters and not the tricks. Those people were all legends and It was a teaser for a documentary.
Here’s a 60 second video I filmed for Volcom for my usual filming style

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CWmioKLlVmX/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

This isn’t about me though. It’s about Canon and their love/have relationship with video shooters

The new video still cuts off heads and more when the sb gets close and does his trick. It is clear you do not use zoom to frame, and I think that results in this phenomenon, which I find to be a limitation. Maybe you think cutting off heads is desirable, fine. This is not personal, it is about equipment and technique. Zooming in video is a standard technique used in all sports by professionals. And the fact is that most camera zooms by Canon do not zoom without losing focus or cannot zoom smoothly. That is an important limitation for action sports video, and not zooming is not the remedy. Some Canon zooms are ok, but lack of power zooms is a real constraint. Besides lack of full frame hfr without crop or artifacts. I don't think any of these hybrid cameras and lenses are ideal for sports, especially skateboarding, which is among the most challenging. Btw, your sampled videos are otherwise great.