Re: Assertions without much to back them up.
ZX11 wrote:
Kokopelli_Rocks wrote:
Oh, let's be honest and dispense with any vagaries: all of these cameras are niche products. There's a sports niche and a pro niche and a video niche and a resolution niche. Niche in the way I used it was not to imply it was a niche product and others weren't, it was more in terms of the market segment.
I don't see Canon replacing the camera. Like others have said, the R was a camera to help Canon quickly enter the mirrorless market.
Quickly? Find me one single person that believes Canon (Canon!) entered the full frame ILC market "quickly". How long had the 5DIV sensor been around? Years. How long does it take to develop an entirely new mount? Years.
Is it your contention that RF lenses were being designed (years) and an RF mount was being designed and suddenly one day someone went to the camera engineers and said "here, we have this new mount and these new lenses and need a body in six months"?
Canon waited FIVE YEARS after the release of the Sony a7 to release their own FF ILC. Please explain to me how they "quickly entere[ed] the mirrorless market."
Totally misunderstood my comment and those of others here. Everyone knows Caon was WAY TOO LATE entering the mirrorless market. When Canon finally woke up and realized they were in deep trouble they quickly scrambled together a camera to enter the market. As BirdShooter7 mentions the initial camera was pretty much a disaster and took several firmware updates to get it working right.
Not everyone. Just Sony fans thought Canon was way too late. Part of their rebranding efforts to fight off Canon's threat to dominate mirrorless like they did with DSLR's. Sony media branding boiler rooms at work.
Excellent point. Well said.
Everyone knows Canon entered the mirrorless market when the tech finally had EVF displays that could rival OVF. Retina like displays and on sensor focusing ability finally reaching decent quality.
Another very good point. I appreciate the perspective.
In the early days, Sony couldn't cheaply build a quality OVF so they soldiered on with horrid low resolution/refresh rate EVF's while pretending what you saw in them didn't matter. No way Canon FF users were gonna be happy with pre-2018 EVF displays.
They also came out with bizarre tech like their SLT cameras. Terrible.
Canon just waited until the EVF and on sensor AF was ready for pro use and serious photographers who were used to spectacular views through OVF.
DPAF not only had to exist for Canon, but also improve beyond PDAF technology. Also helped to have good, cheap touchscreens.