Where is the successor to the original EOS R?

Kokopelli_Rocks wrote:

Thomas A Anderson wrote:

EOSSpeedLite wrote:

I believe that the EOS R body will not be replaced. The reason is:

1. The EOS R's purpose was to answer competitors ASAP to stop consumer departures from Canon before Canon can answer the market with a proper body.
2. The EOS R was a kind of marketing Proof of Concept to prove Canon's direction for mirrorless full-frame and related features in order to collect feedback from the market.

Neither of those is supported by Canon or by the current line up of bodies. See below.

No more need for EOS R replacement, because now we have these:

0. R

1. RP

Not a good replacement for the R. Lower res, way older sensor, lower build quality, less performance.

2. R6

Lower resolution. IBIS. Very much not in the same segment as R.

3. R5

High res. High performance. High video specs.

4. R3

Low res.

5. R7

Irrelevant to FF discussion

6. R10

Ditto

Just my guesses...

I don't see anything there that fills the R niche.

Your are right in the observation that the R is a niche product by Canon.

Oh, let's be honest and dispense with any vagaries:  all of these cameras are niche products.  There's a sports niche and a pro niche and a video niche and a resolution niche.  Niche in the way I used it was not to imply it was a niche product and others weren't, it was more in terms of the market segment.

I don't see Canon replacing the camera. Like others have said, the R was a camera to help Canon quickly enter the mirrorless market.

Quickly?  Find me one single person that believes Canon (Canon!) entered the full frame ILC market "quickly".  How long had the 5DIV sensor been around?  Years.  How long does it take to develop an entirely new mount?  Years.

Is it your contention that RF lenses were being designed (years) and an RF mount was being designed and suddenly one day someone went to the camera engineers and said "here, we have this new mount and these new lenses and need a body in six months"?

Canon waited FIVE YEARS after the release of the Sony a7 to release their own FF ILC.  Please explain to me how they "quickly entere[ed] the mirrorless market."

I personally do not see any replacement coming from Canon in the R niche. I do think Canon will replace the RP

Just as much a niche camera as the R.  Your varying standards for these two is baffling.  The low cost, entry point niche.

with a new low cost FF RF camera that will be the new offering for those who want a lower priced FF option. I see the new camera as the RF 6Dx replacement. I believe the camera will be an upscaled RP, but R users will be disappointed in the offering.

The RP is already the 6DII replacement.  It uses the exact same sensor.  Of course R users would be disappointed because sensor performance of the RP is both low resolution and low dynamic range even by 2019 standards when it was released.

Hopefully the new RP will have a new advanced sensor, not a retread like the R, RP, R7.

Why would any RP/6D NOT have a retread?  It's the budget body.  Of course it's going to have an old sensor.  That's what makes it cheap.