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obsolete but still...lovely

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RLight Senior Member • Posts: 4,414
Re: obsolete but still...lovely

KEG wrote:

RLight wrote:

KoolKool wrote:

KEG wrote:

Limited DR is a bigger problem in my opinion.

Is the sensor made by Sony? i think M3 sensor is as good as a6300, a6500, and the RAW file is 14bit compare to 11bit in Sony, you actually can do shadow lifting and highlight recovery well.

i used to own an a6500, compare both two's raw files, personally, i prefer Canon.

RLight wrote:

Low light on the M3 is no joke. I noted going to the M5 that I lost a bit. PhotonsToPhotons confirms the low light score of the M3 is higher than the M5/6/50/100/200. It's true in viewing. It isn't until the M6 II that the M3 gets surpassed in low light by another M. The M3 is fierce in low light when paired with say a 22 pancake or other fast lens.

i guess the low light quality minor reduction in newer models must be caused by Dual Pixel AF design? But i think the trade off is not bad.

Exactly my thoughts. AF should not be underestimated, but yes, DPAF came with a cost, not a huge one by any means, but a cost nonetheless. Is top-notch AF or top notch ISO more important? It's in the eye of the beholder.

M6 has better ISO performance than M3.

M3 has nicer colors on the other hand.

The M6 II has better ISO than the M3 (but not the M6 Mark I)

Colors is a debatable subject as it's subjective. Neither the M6 II or M3 are very "traditional" in terms of Canon rendering. The M50 / II / M6 I and M/2 win that battle in my book. It is a trade, colors or ISO performance. I'd prefer both but I've learned that yes, better performance is better performance. I personally struggled with this topic, Canon's shift away from their traditional color rendition over time. What won me over to Canon's new colors? Video content. When comparing video shot on an older Canon to a newer one, the newer has much closer to reality rendition.

You know as I write this, it'd be nice if Canon could give us both; "traditional" colors for stills, "modern" colors for video. The trouble is color is such an intertwined event, WB, CFA, your jpeg engine, they all come into play. If Canon shifts the CFA, they have to shift the WB for example. I'm not sure this can be done, giving us the option of both by toggling a change in a menu that enacts WB and JPEG engine shifts. In fact I'm pretty sure it can't. I bet Canon themselves may have internal arguments on the topic. Wouldn't know, just seems logical based off their historically conservative culture.

BTW, AWB-A and AWB-W, are a form of Canon giving us best do-able option. Which is most useful in video I might add. You'd be wise to shoot video in AWB-W and photos in AWB-A, in my book for example. The Fine Detail Picture Profile is another, also useful I might add in video, and stills.

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