How to adjust Finder photo thumbnail size?

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Last month I had an M1 iMac for about 10 days, but I sent it back. Several things I didn't like about it. Tiny text, tiny icons, etc. were one of the things. I didn't get around to trying to upload a photo to an email, a forum, Facebook, etc. so I didn't know about this issue then. With the screen on the M1 iMac the photo thumbnails would have been even smaller. Jeez. And, apparently, no reasonable way to adjust them.
Not if you'd used the 'Default for display' setting



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Last month I had an M1 iMac for about 10 days, but I sent it back. Several things I didn't like about it. Tiny text, tiny icons, etc. were one of the things. I didn't get around to trying to upload a photo to an email, a forum, Facebook, etc. so I didn't know about this issue then. With the screen on the M1 iMac the photo thumbnails would have been even smaller. Jeez. And, apparently, no reasonable way to adjust them.
Not if you'd used the 'Default for display' setting

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I used Default for display. Some people suggested that I change it to one of the lower resolution settings that made everything bigger, but that was not good either. See these posts:





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I went to the Apple Discussions page you linked to, where someone had posted this very problem (not originally clear?). I notice from the screenshots that they are in Icon view. However, if you switch to Column View, can you make the icons much larger by widening the column that the thumbnails are in?

ETA: Indeed you can - I just tried:

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Thanks for that suggestion. I had already thought of that, but it is not all that useful for me. I have folders with lots of files and I am always skimming through the folder looking for 1, 2, 3, etc. particular photos to add to a post on some forum, an email, Facebook, etc.. On average I do this 10-20 times a day. The Columns view does not allow skimming through the folder to quickly find photos. I would have to click on EACH AND EVERY PHOTO to see it on the side. Thanks again though.

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I fully realize that to many people this is a trivial, unimportant thing. We are all different though and for me this is a big thing. There are other things that some people find very important such as AirDrop, iCloud, TimeMachine, Universal Control, etc. that I do not care about at all. Just frills for me that I ignore and hope they don't get in my way. But I know that for some people these things are wonderful and they love them. Again, we are all different.

I have folders with lots of files and I am always skimming through the folder looking for 1, 2, 3, etc. particular photos to add to a post on some forum, an email, Facebook, etc.. On average I do this 10-20 times a day.

In the last few days I have been trying to go cold turkey and exclusively use my new 14" MBP connected to my external monitor to get totally accustomed to it. Because of this problem I am having, since a couple of days ago I set up my Windows laptop (not connected to the external monitor any longer) again next to the MBP to use for these things. :-( I wanted to shut it down and go 100% to this Mac, but that hasn't worked out. Trouble with keeping files I download on one copied to the other, etc. Pain in the butt. Not something I want to do.

My first GUI computer was a Mac in the mid-1990s. I think it was one of the PowerPC Macs or maybe one of the last Motorola 68k Macs. I don't recall. I had it on my desk at work for a year until I changed to a new job and had a Windows 95 PC. Before (and since) I used Unix, MS-DOS, and other command line interfaces to the OS.

In those days I was fine with both PCs and Macs. I had no preference for either one. Both seemed fine. I still think that way because clearly they both can do what tens of millions, hundreds of millions of people want to do. Of course, there are certain details where one can do something the other can't, but mostly it is just a matter of doing the same things in sometimes slightly different ways. Cmd + C vs Ctrl + C to copy, for example. Screenshots (which I do every day) are done in slightly different ways, but both perfectly usable. And so on.
 
Would the screen zoom feature help you?

System preferences->Accessibility->Zoom and select "Use keyboard shortcuts...". Then <alt><cmd>"+", <alt><cmd>"-", and <alt><cmd>"8" to reset.

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Last month I had an M1 iMac for about 10 days, but I sent it back. Several things I didn't like about it. Tiny text, tiny icons, etc. were one of the things. I didn't get around to trying to upload a photo to an email, a forum, Facebook, etc. so I didn't know about this issue then. With the screen on the M1 iMac the photo thumbnails would have been even smaller. Jeez. And, apparently, no reasonable way to adjust them.
Not if you'd used the 'Default for display' setting

947a1f4570684583a3c7680beb53c099.jpg.png
I used Default for display. Some people suggested that I change it to one of the lower resolution settings that made everything bigger, but that was not good either. See these posts:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65917124

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65918751

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65918818

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65920906
Without reading your linked threads, I'd tend to say: if default for display nor any of the scaled options work for you, the problem is not the monitor/MacOS.
 
Last month I had an M1 iMac for about 10 days, but I sent it back. Several things I didn't like about it. Tiny text, tiny icons, etc. were one of the things. I didn't get around to trying to upload a photo to an email, a forum, Facebook, etc. so I didn't know about this issue then. With the screen on the M1 iMac the photo thumbnails would have been even smaller. Jeez. And, apparently, no reasonable way to adjust them.
Not if you'd used the 'Default for display' setting

947a1f4570684583a3c7680beb53c099.jpg.png
I used Default for display. Some people suggested that I change it to one of the lower resolution settings that made everything bigger, but that was not good either. See these posts:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65917124
"Thanks, but maybe you misunderstood. I just now checked that and it changes my screen resolution to 1920x1080, 1600x900, or 1280x720. Naturally I don't want to do that. Of course, I want to keep my 4.5k screen which I just paid for, but I just want the text to be a bit larger. Anyway, thanks again."

From this post I see you don't understand the difference between scaling and resolution - scaling does NOT change the resolution and does EXACTLY want you (say you) want: making the text (and icons) larger whilst keeping the 4.5k resolution (you paid for).

It's VERY different from physically changing/lowering the screen resolution, which effects all elements, including image sizes and text sharpness.
"As an example, right now I am looking at the Activity Monitor. The text font size is tiny. Even when I put on reading glasses it is still tiny. I have not yet found how to change it."

Just choose a larger scaled setting - you'll have larger text font without losing any resolution nor text sharpness.

Have you actually tried any of the larger scaled settings?

Do you realize the Default for display setting is just the (default) SCALED setting of macOS for that display? It's NOT the native 4.5k non-scaled setting.
"Are you saying that if I set it to 1920x1080 that Lightroom Classic, Photoshop, Topaz, Vuescan, photo viewer, etc. will still display photos using the full 4480x2520? But, the 1920x1080 will cause just all the text outside and inside the programs to be larger? With 4.5k I can put more stuff on my screen, but wouldn't changing it to 1920x1080 reduce that too?"

Well, you can't have it both ways - larger texts as well as max screen real estate - but that has NOTHING to do with macOS: larger texts/icons/images/whatever take up more screen space, so of course you can have less of that (larger stuff) on a screen (with fixed dimensions). Only 'solution' is getting a screen with more physical pixels, in your case going up to 5k (or 6k or 8k).
 
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In a regular Finder window (not the upload window) in icon view I am trying to select a whole bunch of photos in a folder. I selected the first one and then holding the shift key I then selected the last photo, but it does not select all the photos from the first to the last. It only selects those 2 photos. I found this info and it appears I am doing exactly the right thing, but I cannot get it to work. Any ideas?

https://support.apple.com/en-lk/guide/mac-help/mchlp1378/mac

Select multiple items that are adjacent: Click the first item, then press the Shift key and click the last item. All items in between are included in the selection.

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Shift key and click for multiple selections doesn't work in Icon view, you need to be in list view for that to work...

But all is not lost, in Icon view you can mouse drag over multiple icons to select them, and use shift key between mouse drags to select non adjacent multiple icons.

The trick with mouse dragging for selection is to start somewhere on the background near to your first icon NOT on the icon itself (because that will drag/move the icon), then as you drag across a box is drawn, if the box touches an icon the icon becomes selected.

You can drag in any direction, but if you are making multiple drag selections then don't touch or cross an existing selection because that will toggle the previous selection off.

Kev
 
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The spatial Finder one of the fundamental features of the Macintosh. Icons stay where you put them in Finder. The auto arrangements of icons can look like a Windows File Explorer icon view, but fundamentally each icon in Finder is mapped to its own x and y coordinates and can be moved anywhere.

The Windows Desktop is the closest thing in Windows. Windows does allow selecting groups of icons on the Desktop with that method, but Finder doesn't. Apple is probably not going to add it.
 
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Would the screen zoom feature help you?

System preferences->Accessibility->Zoom and select "Use keyboard shortcuts...". Then <alt><cmd>"+", <alt><cmd>"-", and <alt><cmd>"8" to reset.
Thank you for that idea. I knew about this option because I tried it several weeks ago when I had an M1 iMac for awhile, but I forgot to try it for this situation on my 14" MBP. I just now tried it and I was hoping it would sort of work out, but it is pretty disappointing. When in the upload window I can use it and it increases the size of everything, not just the upload window icons. The main issue though is that while it makes the icons (and everything else) bigger they are just bigger but still super low rez. Not the same at all as having bigger thumbnails (which I can see in a regular Finder window). This is slightly helpful, but that is all. Still not good or even close to good. :-(

Thanks again.

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I went to the Apple Discussions page you linked to, where someone had posted this very problem (not originally clear?). I notice from the screenshots that they are in Icon view. However, if you switch to Column View, can you make the icons much larger by widening the column that the thumbnails are in?

ETA: Indeed you can - I just tried:

3755e412ee0f47f496cc23a64635d65a.jpg.png
Thanks for that suggestion. I had already thought of that, but it is not all that useful for me. I have folders with lots of files and I am always skimming through the folder looking for 1, 2, 3, etc. particular photos to add to a post on some forum, an email, Facebook, etc.. On average I do this 10-20 times a day. The Columns view does not allow skimming through the folder to quickly find photos. I would have to click on EACH AND EVERY PHOTO to see it on the side. Thanks again though.
I don't use it myself, but for years people used to rave about the Default Folder app - is it still available and would it help you?

It appears it's still around:


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I fully realize that to many people this is a trivial, unimportant thing. We are all different though and for me this is a big thing. There are other things that some people find very important such as AirDrop, iCloud, TimeMachine, Universal Control, etc. that I do not care about at all. Just frills for me that I ignore and hope they don't get in my way. But I know that for some people these things are wonderful and they love them. Again, we are all different.

I have folders with lots of files and I am always skimming through the folder looking for 1, 2, 3, etc. particular photos to add to a post on some forum, an email, Facebook, etc.. On average I do this 10-20 times a day.

In the last few days I have been trying to go cold turkey and exclusively use my new 14" MBP connected to my external monitor to get totally accustomed to it. Because of this problem I am having, since a couple of days ago I set up my Windows laptop (not connected to the external monitor any longer) again next to the MBP to use for these things. :-( I wanted to shut it down and go 100% to this Mac, but that hasn't worked out. Trouble with keeping files I download on one copied to the other, etc. Pain in the butt. Not something I want to do.

My first GUI computer was a Mac in the mid-1990s. I think it was one of the PowerPC Macs or maybe one of the last Motorola 68k Macs. I don't recall. I had it on my desk at work for a year until I changed to a new job and had a Windows 95 PC. Before (and since) I used Unix, MS-DOS, and other command line interfaces to the OS.

In those days I was fine with both PCs and Macs. I had no preference for either one. Both seemed fine. I still think that way because clearly they both can do what tens of millions, hundreds of millions of people want to do. Of course, there are certain details where one can do something the other can't, but mostly it is just a matter of doing the same things in sometimes slightly different ways. Cmd + C vs Ctrl + C to copy, for example. Screenshots (which I do every day) are done in slightly different ways, but both perfectly usable. And so on.
With that said, and looking at your old posts, you do tend to struggle with modern technology and buying decisions. But we are all here to help you! :-)
 
I fully realize that to many people this is a trivial, unimportant thing. We are all different though and for me this is a big thing. There are other things that some people find very important such as AirDrop, iCloud, TimeMachine, Universal Control, etc. that I do not care about at all. Just frills for me that I ignore and hope they don't get in my way. But I know that for some people these things are wonderful and they love them. Again, we are all different.

I have folders with lots of files and I am always skimming through the folder looking for 1, 2, 3, etc. particular photos to add to a post on some forum, an email, Facebook, etc.. On average I do this 10-20 times a day.

In the last few days I have been trying to go cold turkey and exclusively use my new 14" MBP connected to my external monitor to get totally accustomed to it. Because of this problem I am having, since a couple of days ago I set up my Windows laptop (not connected to the external monitor any longer) again next to the MBP to use for these things. :-( I wanted to shut it down and go 100% to this Mac, but that hasn't worked out. Trouble with keeping files I download on one copied to the other, etc. Pain in the butt. Not something I want to do.

My first GUI computer was a Mac in the mid-1990s. I think it was one of the PowerPC Macs or maybe one of the last Motorola 68k Macs. I don't recall. I had it on my desk at work for a year until I changed to a new job and had a Windows 95 PC. Before (and since) I used Unix, MS-DOS, and other command line interfaces to the OS.

In those days I was fine with both PCs and Macs. I had no preference for either one. Both seemed fine. I still think that way because clearly they both can do what tens of millions, hundreds of millions of people want to do. Of course, there are certain details where one can do something the other can't, but mostly it is just a matter of doing the same things in sometimes slightly different ways. Cmd + C vs Ctrl + C to copy, for example. Screenshots (which I do every day) are done in slightly different ways, but both perfectly usable. And so on.
With that said, and looking at your old posts, you do tend to struggle with modern technology and buying decisions.
Would you mind elaborating? Thanks.

I assume you mean my reluctance and bafflement that Apple expects people to install Xcode and use a utility in there to edit a hidden plist file:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66041567

Awhile back someone here said they are an Apple employee. Was that you? By chance, did you design this?

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With that said, and looking at your old posts, you do tend to struggle with modern technology and buying decisions.
Would you mind elaborating? Thanks.

I assume you mean my reluctance and bafflement that Apple expects people to install Xcode and use a utility in there to edit a hidden plist file:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66041567
They don't. they expect you to use a Terminal command . They also expect anybody who feels the need to edit a Property List to know enough to look in ~/Library and use a Terminal window, otherwise they expect the non-technical user to be better off protected by their blissful ignorance from messing up things they don't understand.
 
These tips are simple and generally work in Finder and Photos and basically everywhere and for everything.

For increasing icon size or print and icon size, whatever, click on the page/screen, release then Command= [which I presume automatically selects the + on the same key]

To select any number of items in any order, Command/Click on each. While holding, the Command key, click on a highlighted item to deselect.

To select a consecutive batch, Command Shift [that’s the up arrow formerly known as the carriage shift key] while selecting the first and last. After releasing it is possible to deselect individual items by Command Clicking on any number of them.
 
These tips are simple and generally work in Finder and Photos and basically everywhere and for everything.

For increasing icon size or print and icon size, whatever, click on the page/screen, release then Command= [which I presume automatically selects the + on the same key]

To select any number of items in any order, Command/Click on each. While holding, the Command key, click on a highlighted item to deselect.

To select a consecutive batch, Command Shift [that’s the up arrow formerly known as the carriage shift key] while selecting the first and last. After releasing it is possible to deselect individual items by Command Clicking on any number of them.
I don't think that works in file dialog boxes (when you get when you use File>Open in your browser, for example.

This is an old thread, but my solution is to use Default Folder X. It displays a big preview of the image when selected if you're using icon view, sort of like how you see a preview in list view, but at the bottom.

Only a partial fix though. And it's kind of sad that after all this time the Finder still needs utility to well, find things. I sometimes wonder if utility developers like those that do Default Folder X expected to have a viable product for so long.
 

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