is a new Mac Mini compatible with a bravia 32n4000 tv?

Tom_N said:

10 gigabit Ethernet would be useful mainly if you had much faster Internet service than most people in the U.S., or if you had an elaborate home storage system with a 10-gigabit-capable NAS.

You probably don’t need it.

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my internet svc is AT&T. just checked my speed in real time:

Latency 86.3 ms
Download 16.77 Mbps
Stability 86%
Transferred Data 38.83 MB
Upload 1.07 Mbps
Stability -593%
Transferred Data 1.41 MB

elaborate storage sys? i have EHDs with a range of 500g - 8T

Tom_N said:

If you have the money for that combination (M1 Mini + 24” 4K LG UltraFine), another possibility might be a 24” M1 iMac.

Note that with the iMac, the display is forever tied to the built-in computer.

For either type of machine, 16 GB of RAM would be a good thing to get for future-proofing.

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I don't know why i want a 27', i think it's just b/c that's what i had b/4. But that's not much difference right? as it's a diagonal measure.

"16G RAM for future-proofing" what's f-p?

RAM's different from my EHDs right? you mean inside the mini?

ljjames said:

Tom_N said:

10 gigabit Ethernet would be useful mainly if you had much faster Internet service than most people in the U.S., or if you had an elaborate home storage system with a 10-gigabit-capable NAS.

You probably don’t need it.

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my internet svc is AT&T. just checked my speed in real time:

Latency 86.3 ms
Download 16.77 Mbps
Stability 86%
Transferred Data 38.83 MB
Upload 1.07 Mbps
Stability -593%
Transferred Data 1.41 MB

elaborate storage sys? i have EHDs with a range of 500g - 8T

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Gigabit Ethernet = 1000 Mbps Ethernet, so your AT&T service isn’t”t anywhere close to the limits of that.

NAS = Network-Attached Storage … which would let you put your hard drives in a remote part of the house from the computer, maybe even access them from the Internet while traveling. But NAS units add cost and complexity relative to plain external drives. Sounds like you are not using one.

Tom_N said:

ljjames said:

Tom_N said:

10 gigabit Ethernet would be useful mainly if you had much faster Internet service than most people in the U.S., or if you had an elaborate home storage system with a 10-gigabit-capable NAS.

You probably don’t need it.

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my internet svc is AT&T. just checked my speed in real time:

Latency 86.3 ms
Download 16.77 Mbps
Stability 86%
Transferred Data 38.83 MB
Upload 1.07 Mbps
Stability -593%
Transferred Data 1.41 MB

elaborate storage sys? i have EHDs with a range of 500g - 8T

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Gigabit Ethernet = 1000 Mbps Ethernet, so your AT&T service isn’t”t anywhere close to the limits of that.

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Can you recommend a better internet svc? i only use it for that. (have a separate phone svc)

Tom_N said:

NAS = Network-Attached Storage … which would let you put your hard drives in a remote part of the house from the computer, maybe even access them from the Internet while traveling. But NAS units add cost and complexity relative to plain external drives. Sounds like you are not using one.

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sounds like wifi which i can't use b/c electromagnetic radiation puts me down for the count.

You could possibly consider an M1 iMac too. I had the M1 iMac 16gb/512gb a few weeks ago, but ended up returning it. Here are the reasons I returned it:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65971805

Not trying to persuade you or dissuade you about anything though. Just some additional info.

At the moment I have a 14" M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16gb/512gb (base model) on order. Shows a 3/22-30 delivery. I expect to connect it to my external monitor when I am using it at home and I have another external monitor at another location where I sometimes stay and I plan to connect it to that one when I am there. I also sometimes spend a few months elsewhere, going by plane, so in those cases I usually buy another monitor locally to use for a few months and then sell it or give it away before leaving. I have been doing this for years so that makes a laptop work out better for me than a desktop, generally.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

--
Henry Richardson
http://www.bakubo.com

ljjames said:

RAM's different from my EHDs right? you mean inside the mini?

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Persistent storage devices – hard drives, SSDs, USB flash drives, and memory cards don't lose your work the instant that you shut the computer off properly. But these devices are very slow and inconvenient for a CPU to work with.

RAM is extremely fast, compared even to a SSD. It's relatively easy for CPUs to work with. But it's expensive, and the most common types of RAM lose all of their contents when the power goes off, even for a fraction of a second. This makes RAM appropriate for working memory but not for saving your data.

Think of your computer as doing almost all of its work on a blackboard or whiteboard (in RAM), stopping only occasionally to slowly copy selected pieces of information to or from files and filing cabinets (your drives).

The blackboard or whiteboard (RAM) always lives inside the computer (classroom) – but the files and filing cabinets can live either inside the classroom (computer), or down the hall in the school administrators' offices (external storage).

ljjames said:

"16G RAM for future-proofing" what's f-p?

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As computers get more powerful, software developers tend to write new versions of their applications with the latest and greatest machines in mind.

If you keep your computer for a long time, you may find that you need more power in the future than you do now. "Future-proofing" is simply choosing an initial configuration with a eye towards being able to get a few years' more service down the line.

Two ways to get more service are by adding RAM and adding storage. You can't add RAM to a M1-based Mac after the fact. The RAM is in the same System-on-Chip package as the CPU – it's "soldered in" to the CPU itself. You can get 8 GB or 16 GB of RAM, but whatever size you get, you must thereafter hold your peace.

8 GB is plenty for most everyday Web browsing, word processing, light photo editing, etc. But Adobe already recommends 16 GB or more for Photoshop and Lightroom. If you want to increase the chances of having enough RAM for the applications that are current five years from now, 16 GB would seem to be more future-proof than 8 GB.

Henry Richardson said:

At the moment I have a 14" M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16gb/512gb (base model) on order.

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thank you Henry.

i can get 14" M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16gb/512gb at walmart (if i shoped there which i don't b/c i despise the companies ...everything)

Ahmmm ... rant over.

anywho their price is $1300. W A Y over what i can spend.

ljjames said:

Henry Richardson said:

At the moment I have a 14" M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16gb/512gb (base model) on order.

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thank you Henry.

i can get 14" M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16gb/512gb at walmart (if i shoped there which i don't b/c i despise the companies ...everything)

Ahmmm ... rant over.

anywho their price is $1300. W A Y over what i can spend.

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Wow! Wow! Wow! If Walmart has a new 14" M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16gb/512gb (base model) for $1300 I would run, not walk, to buy it. On the Apple Japan website it is 239,800 yen including tax:

https://www.apple.com/jp/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/14インチ-スペースグレイ-8コアcpu-14コアgpu-512gb

And on the Apple U.S. website it is $1999 + tax:

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/14-inch-space-gray-8-core-cpu-14-core-gpu-512gb

And after ordering you have to wait for quite awhile to get it. Being able to walk into a local Walmart, getting a $700 discount, and being able to walk out with it is really nice.

I didn't realize local retailers were selling it at a discount in the States. Here in Japan the price seems to be 239,800 yen everywhere, not just the Apple website.

--
Henry Richardson
http://www.bakubo.com

hello!! I've been down for the count. hopefully by tomorrow i can resume this convo.

Henry Richardson said:

Wow! Wow! Wow! If Walmart has a new 14" M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16gb/512gb (base model) for $1300 I would run, not walk, to buy it.… on the Apple U.S. website it is $1999 + tax:

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$1299 is Apple's price for the base model of the 13" MacBook Pro. Makes me wonder if the Walmart ad was an honest mistake – entered by someone who was not very familiar with the change-over from 13" models to mixed 13" and 14" models in the MBP product line.

There are some third-party listings on Walmart's site that incorrectly state that old (now discontinued) 15" Intel-based MBPs are 14" MBPs. Looks like a few people need to be a bit more careful with their data entry.

Hey Tom!!

i did it!

does this have enough power?

ordered:



M1 Mac-Mini

16 GB of RAM

NOW...

which one ↓ would you buy for a li'l ol' lady who you know and love?

ASUS @$259.99. Has a 1ms response time (most of the others are 5 ms):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074PK4R2H/?tag=macforums0e4-20



Phillips @$279.99 has builtin speakers, also tilt & height adjustment:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TF58RR4/?tag=macforums0e4-20



Z-Edge @$289.99. It actually has a slightly larger display panel @28". It has builtin speakers and it has a USB-c port and HDMI & Displayport. The display description says:

"[Type-C Support]Offering 4k video display, data transfer and laptop/cell phone device charging all at the same time with a single cable through the type-c port."

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091TW9DBM/?tag=macforums0e4-20

ljjames said:

ASUS @$259.99. Has a 1ms response time (most of the others are 5 ms):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074PK4R2H/?tag=macforums0e4-20

Phillips @$279.99 has builtin speakers, also tilt & height adjustment:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TF58RR4/?tag=macforums0e4-20

Z-Edge @$289.99. It actually has a slightly larger display panel @28". It has builtin speakers and it has a USB-c port and HDMI & Displayport.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091TW9DBM/?tag=macforums0e4-20

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All look good.

Will you always use headphones, or do you want speakers? I don't think the ASUS has 'em.

I'd avoid the Z-Edge because no claim is made about color gamut, and ratings are lower.

Online reviews of the Philips are generally positive.

ljjames said:

which one ↓ would you buy for a li'l ol' lady who you know and love?

ASUS @$259.99. Has a 1ms response time (most of the others are 5 ms):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074PK4R2H/?tag=macforums0e4-20

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Here is Asus's description of the monitor .

It's a 28", 3840x2160 pixel monitor with a TN panel. Asus calls it a gaming monitor, but claims 94% coverage of sRGB. Super-fast response time is something that might matter to someone playing high-end fast-twitch first-person 3D shooter games, but is not really important for much of anything else.

ljjames said:

Phillips @$279.99 has builtin speakers, also tilt & height adjustment:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TF58RR4/?tag=macforums0e4-20

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Here is Phillips' description of the monitor .

It's a 28", 3840x2160 pixel monitor with an IPS panel. Philips claims 119.7% coverage of sRGB.

ljjames said:

Z-Edge @$289.99. It actually has a slightly larger display panel @28". It has builtin speakers and it has a USB-c port and HDMI & Displayport. The display description says:

"[Type-C Support]Offering 4k video display, data transfer and laptop/cell phone device charging all at the same time with a single cable through the type-c port."

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091TW9DBM/?tag=macforums0e4-20

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I've never heard of Z-Edge. Their description of the monitor does not indicate the panel type or sRGB coverage.

CAcreeks said:

ljjames said:

ASUS @$259.99. Has a 1ms response time (most of the others are 5 ms):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074PK4R2H/?tag=macforums0e4-20

Phillips @$279.99 has builtin speakers, also tilt & height adjustment:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TF58RR4/?tag=macforums0e4-20

Z-Edge @$289.99. It actually has a slightly larger display panel @28". It has builtin speakers and it has a USB-c port and HDMI & Displayport.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091TW9DBM/?tag=macforums0e4-20

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All look good.

Will you always use headphones, or do you want speakers? I don't think the ASUS has 'em.

I'd avoid the Z-Edge because no claim is made about color gamut, and ratings are lower.

Online reviews of the Philips are generally positive.

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thanks cacreeks,

I use my bose for speakers. It has great sound, and at any volume.

Tom_N said:

ljjames said:

which one ↓ would you buy for a li'l ol' lady who you know and love?

ASUS @$259.99. Has a 1ms response time (most of the others are 5 ms):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074PK4R2H/?tag=macforums0e4-20

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Here is Asus's description of the monitor .

It's a 28", 3840x2160 pixel monitor with a TN panel. Asus calls it a gaming monitor, but claims 94% coverage of sRGB. Super-fast response time is something that might matter to someone playing high-end fast-twitch first-person 3D shooter games, but is not really important for much of anything else.

Tom_N said:

Phillips @$279.99 has builtin speakers, also tilt & height adjustment:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TF58RR4/?tag=macforums0e4-20

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Here is Phillips' description of the monitor .

It's a 28", 3840x2160 pixel monitor with an IPS panel. Philips claims 119.7% coverage of sRGB.

Tom_N said:

Z-Edge @$289.99. It actually has a slightly larger display panel @28". It has builtin speakers and it has a USB-c port and HDMI & Displayport. The display description says:

"[Type-C Support]Offering 4k video display, data transfer and laptop/cell phone device charging all at the same time with a single cable through the type-c port."

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091TW9DBM/?tag=macforums0e4-20

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I've never heard of Z-Edge. Their description of the monitor does not indicate the panel type or sRGB coverage.

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Hi Tom!

so are you saying you wouldn't buy any of these for your li'l ol' lady friend? if so, what monitor would you recommend?

Tom_N said:

Here is Asus's description of the monitor .

It's a 28", 3840x2160 pixel monitor with a TN panel. Asus calls it a gaming monitor, but claims 94% coverage of sRGB. Super-fast response time is something that might matter to someone playing high-end fast-twitch first-person 3D shooter games, but is not really important for much of anything else.

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TN panels are usually considered a no-no for photographers. TN technology means that the colors change as you move your eyes back and forth, or up and down. Hard to judge.

IPS is recommended instead, or mini LED.

ljjames said:

Hi Tom!

so are you saying you wouldn't buy any of these for your li'l ol' lady friend? if so, what monitor would you recommend?

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If I was in the market for a 27" – 28" 4K monitor, and had a budget of $300, I would pass on the Z-Edge (too much of an unknown).

The Philips 288E2E doesn't look too bad. There are a couple of other Philips monitors on Amazon that are similar in terms of size, panel type, sRGB coverage, and price. (Going by the Amazon listings, they came out in 2019, whereas the 288E2E came out in 2021.)

• Philips 278E1A 27" Frameless Monitor, $289.99 (https://www.amazon.com/Philips-278E1A-Frameless-Speakers-Replacement/dp/B07ZSGR5TM/ref=sr_1_3)
• Philips 276E8VJSB 27" Monitor, $269.14 (https://www.amazon.com/Philips-276E8VJSB-3840x2160-UltraNarrow-DispalyPort/dp/B07JXCR263/ref=sr_1_4)

Samsung has a 27" S80A monitor with an IPS panel and 99% sRGB coverage. Amazon has a monitor in this series (not sure if it's the same monitor) for $295.29 – but it seems to be backordered ("usually ships within 1 to 2 months").

All of Dell's 27" 4K monitors seem to go for $404.99 and up.

Tom_N said:

ljjames said:

Hi Tom!

so are you saying you wouldn't buy any of these for your li'l ol' lady friend? if so, what monitor would you recommend?

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If I was in the market for a 27" – 28" 4K monitor, and had a budget of $300, I would pass on the Z-Edge (too much of an unknown).

The Philips 288E2E doesn't look too bad. There are a couple of other Philips monitors on Amazon that are similar in terms of size, panel type, sRGB coverage, and price. (Going by the Amazon listings, they came out in 2019, whereas the 288E2E came out in 2021.)

• Philips 278E1A 27" Frameless Monitor, $289.99 (https://www.amazon.com/Philips-278E1A-Frameless-Speakers-Replacement/dp/B07ZSGR5TM/ref=sr_1_3)
• Philips 276E8VJSB 27" Monitor, $269.14 (https://www.amazon.com/Philips-276E8VJSB-3840x2160-UltraNarrow-DispalyPort/dp/B07JXCR263/ref=sr_1_4)

Samsung has a 27" S80A monitor with an IPS panel and 99% sRGB coverage. Amazon has a monitor in this series (not sure if it's the same monitor) for $295.29 – but it seems to be backordered ("usually ships within 1 to 2 months").

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I DID A TERRIBLE THING!! looked at some articles on my phone. 8-{

Now i'm bleary eyed after 10 hours of looking at monitors. I picked out some. Maybe after not being bugged by me for a few days, you would look thru these and get me down to 3 or less???

I PROMISE NOT TO LOOK ANYMORE..especially since i'm getting my mimi mac very soon!

BTW, i've put some features in 2 categories here.

I want these:

* tilt.

* height adjustment.

* Better brightness.

* Better refresh rate.

* More ports (USB-A, USB-C, HDMI, DVI, VGA, Displayport, etc).

I"m not familiar with this one. the settings on my monitors have always been in system preferences.

* Easier access to monitor built in settings menus.

I don't need these:

* Built-in speakers

* monitor rotates & can be used in the horizontal or vertical position.

* Pivoting ability.

* can charge your cellphone via the display

They're LG, PHILLIPS & SAMSUNG with one exception at the bottom.

LG 27 & 32":

LG 27-Inch UHD (3840 x 2160) IPS Display, AMD FreeSync Technology, sRGB 98% Color Gamut, HDR 10, OnScreen Control, Wall Mountable - Black

Price: $296.99

LG 32 Inch UHD (3840 x 2160) VA Display with AMD FreeSync, DCI-P3 95% Color Gamut and HDR 10 Compatibility, Silver/White, Silver/White Amazon's Choice in Computer Monitors by LG Price: $296.99

this one's cheaper here... ebay $290.00

...than here LG 4K UHD Monitor with AMD FreeSync, Black

Amazon's Choice in Computer Monitors by LG

Price: $346.99

PHILLIPS 27":

this is the one i chose from the 1st list of 3:

Philips 27" Monitor, 4K UHD IPS, 1 Billion+ Colors, Ultranarrow Borders, Lowblue, Multiview, 4Yr Advance Replacement Warranty

Amazon's Choice in Computer Monitors by Philips Computer Monitors

Price: $251.68

Phillips 27" Frameless Monitor, 4K UHD IPS, 109% sRGB, Speakers, VESA, 4Yr Advance Replacement Warranty

Price: $289.99

SAMSUNG 27 & 28":

Samsung 27 Inch 4K Monitor, Vertical Monitor, USB C Monitor, HDR10 (1 Billion Colors), Built-in Speakers (LS27A800UNNXZA)

$294.46

SAMSUNG 28-Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) Computer Monitor, HDMI, Display Port, Eye Saver Mode, VESA Compatible, FreeSync

Amazon's Choice n Computer Monitors by SAMSUNG

Price: $289.00

AoC:

this gives more info on the next one

AoC U2879VF LCD 28´´ 4K UHD LED 60Hz

ljjames said:

BTW, i've put some features in 2 categories here.

I want these:

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ljjames said:

* More ports (USB-A, USB-C, HDMI, DVI, VGA, Displayport, etc).

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The video input ports that would be most useful are (Mini) DisplayPort, HDMI, and USB-C (DisplayPort).

VGA (an old type of analog connection) doesn't support enough resolution for 24" and 27" monitors. Single-link DVI-D supports up to 1920x1200 pixels. Anything above 1920x1200 pixels requires dual-link DVI. Adapting USB-C (DisplayPort) or (Mini) DisplayPort output to dual-link DVI is a real pain. The adapters are relatively scarce and expensive, and some of them do not have the greatest reputation for glitch-free operation. You're much better off going with a monitor that has modern video inputs.

ljjames said:

I"m not familiar with this one. the settings on my monitors have always been in system preferences.

* Easier access to monitor built in settings menus.

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System Preferences contains settings for resolution, and for the built-in displays on iMacs and Mac laptops. When it comes to external monitors, some monitors let you adjust settings from the monitor itself. Others leave off buttons on the monitor itself in favor of having you control the monitor from the computer. This can be convenient, but can also prevent you from reusing the monitor with another computer in the future (because the ability to adjust the monitor controls depends on software that the monitor vendor may, or may not, make available for your future computer(s)).