eos m6 mkii - no wireless flash control

mouzhik wrote:

kli wrote:

mouzhik wrote:

kli wrote:

... Some Canon cameras (mostly dSLRs) have the ability to use Canon's "smart" optical system to remotely control/fire flashes with a built-in/pop-up flash. In the EOS M lineup, that's apparently reserved for the M5 and M50 lines.

I was about to open a new thread with a similar title (eos m6 mkii - no wireless flash control, but then I found your post.

I am trying to use the M6 (mk I) built-in flash to trigger the EL-100 wirelessly, but it seems like it is not possible.

Correct.

So I did an extensive search on DPR and in internet in order to find a compatibility list of EOS bodies capable to trigger the EL-100 wirelessly, without success.

Does such a list exist?

Or how do you know that only the M5 and the M50 have this feature?

I don't, I was assuming (wrongly), since with the dSLR lines, wireless flash control from the built-in flash is typically reserved for prosumer bodies (having it in the Canon T#i line is an exception, rather than the rule for most brands). I also think I'd googled up someone else making the same assumption to "verify". Gotta love the interwebz echo chamber of misinformation.

Googling, now, the M5, M50, M50ii and M6ii do not have this capability. Looks like none of the M bodies do this. They can all do wireless flash with an appropriate "master" unit on the hotshoe, though, which is why this can make it hard to tell from specs.

Also, the R bodies don't have built-in flashes, so they can't do it, either. Looks like Canon thinks mirrorless shooters are all going to buy radio transmitters instead.

Thank you for your answer.

Last night I did it the other way round, I consulted the user manuals of those M-models and yes, you are right: they can trigger nothing at all, except for my profound disappointment... Why would they cripple even such small things???

How is it crippling? It simply don’t have a feature you wish it does. A lot of the APS-C MILC cameras don’t have build in flash triggers. it is the norm. The sony A6xxx line doesn’t have it either as far as I know.

It is usually the mid level cameras with built in flash that have that. The lower end entry models typically don’t, and the higher end models don’t even have built in flashes. 
I think the reasoning is as follows. The smaller/cheaper bodies are a budget argument. Beginners usually don’t buy a flash to use off camera anyways. When people move up the ladder they are more likely to dabble with flash but won’t necessarily spend more than just 1 flash unit. Thus having the onboard flash trigger the flash unit is a relatively low barrier of entry. 
Going up to the higher end bodies… well most serious prosumers/amateurs/pros will simply get several flash units or a trigger or both. Funny thing is the above is essentially how it went for me as well. 
And as someone else mentioned. If you buy godox, you can relatively cheaply buy 2 flashes an a wireless trigger for the same amount or less than an OEM canon flash unit. And if I am going to carry around a flash unit, the on camera trigger is not that big to even be a hassle.