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I just took a video of a piece of property that I had just finished renovating. I found the 12-60mm is not wide enough to exaggerate the width like the ones the real estate broker's photographer's.

Thinking of getting a ultra wide and came up with Rokinon, Samyang and 7artisan 7.5mm as potential candidates.

I will be using this rarely. Probably use it for B-roll clips and my main lens would be the 12-60mm. So, I want to spend the least amount for a used one to add to my arsenal.

Any comment and suggestion?
 
DMKAlex said:
Bruce M. said:
Terrible Photographer said:
DMKAlex said:
I have also purchased a sheet of Rosco Cinegel #3404 to use as ND filter.
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That's designed for lights, not lenses. It's going to likely fog up your pictures pretty major.
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There's optical quality gels (Kodak Wratten) and strictly just for lighting (Rosco) gels.
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A 3x3" Kodak Wratten #96 costs about $100. I'll pass on that.
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That's how I got to that conclusion. You do you, but the poor person pays twice.
 
Terrible Photographer said:
DMKAlex said:
Bruce M. said:
Terrible Photographer said:
DMKAlex said:
I have also purchased a sheet of Rosco Cinegel #3404 to use as ND filter.
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That's designed for lights, not lenses. It's going to likely fog up your pictures pretty major.
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There's optical quality gels (Kodak Wratten) and strictly just for lighting (Rosco) gels.
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A 3x3" Kodak Wratten #96 costs about $100. I'll pass on that.
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That's how I got to that conclusion. You do you, but the poor person pays twice.
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My rationalization is . . .

The 7.5mm distorts the image as an ultra wide would. So, how much the little imperfection of the cheaper gel can add to it?

From the videos I saw, their result (other than ND) is not something I'd noticed.

Plus, someone actually makes a ND cone that fits over the front for about $50.
 
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It may be a bitter pill to swallow, but sometimes it is just worth hiring a professional whose work you admire rather than trying to do it yourself, especially when large amounts of money might be involved. I've seen real estate interiors that just blow me away, and I know it would take me forever and a day to perfect that kind of photography.
 
David5833 said:
It may be a bitter pill to swallow, but sometimes it is just worth hiring a professional whose work you admire rather than trying to do it yourself, especially when large amounts of money might be involved. I've seen real estate interiors that just blow me away, and I know it would take me forever and a day to perfect that kind of photography.
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Yes, the professional of the realtor did a good job. It is more or less a video for my own ego because I'd just spent a hundred days of my life doing the renovation. See my video.

BTW, the property was listed on a Sunday and was sold on the 2nd day. $10,000 above listed price.
 
The Rohinon arrived today. Couldn't wait to take it out for a ride.

I shot some indoor shots, still and video. The still shots are totally manageable with Photoshop. The lens correction is pretty easy to use. I used some lens correction with the video. I had to crop in a little to avoid the curvatures on the side. I'd say, I had the equivalence of 9mm instead of 7.5.

I went to the gym and shot some from the parking lot. This is with the Rosco filter gel attached. I would say the gel works great as a ND filter.



Here is a still of my family room:



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Skeeterbytes said:
Hands on with the Laowa 7.5/2,…
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And the new version has electronic contacts. It communicates EXIF data and has automatic aperture!

Don't buy a used one, unless you get a REAL bargain and don't mind not having EXIF data.

Jan
 
Pete_W said:
DMKAlex said:
Thinking of getting a ultra wide and came up with Rokinon, Samyang and 7artisan 7.5mm as potential candidates.

I will be using this rarely. Probably use it for B-roll clips and my main lens would be the 12-60mm. So, I want to spend the least amount for a used one to add to my arsenal.

Any comment and suggestion?
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The Panasonic 7-14mm/f4 is an excellent lens. Compact, light, sharp. Built-in lens hood. Great for architectural shooting.

p.s. can be problematic on Olympus bodies.
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john isaacs said:
Pete_W said:
The Panasonic 7-14mm/f4 is an excellent lens. Compact, light, sharp. Built-in lens hood. Great for architectural shooting.

p.s. can be problematic on Olympus bodies.
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Also problematic if you use filters.
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With the exception of polarizers, what can you do with filters that you cannot do in post?

I have never wished for a filter for my M.Zuiko 7-14. Every now and then, when I have some spare cash, I consider buying a square filter adapter for it. Then, I go take pictures until the feeling passes.

Jan
 
Jan_Steinman said:
john isaacs said:
Pete_W said:
The Panasonic 7-14mm/f4 is an excellent lens. Compact, light, sharp. Built-in lens hood. Great for architectural shooting.

p.s. can be problematic on Olympus bodies.
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Also problematic if you use filters.
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With the exception of polarizers, what can you do with filters that you cannot do in post?

I have never wished for a filter for my M.Zuiko 7-14. Every now and then, when I have some spare cash, I consider buying a square filter adapter for it. Then, I go take pictures until the feeling passes.

Jan
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If you are using it for video, which I am, ND filter is a must.

I got around it by putting a piece of Rosco 3404 ND gel in the back of the lens (7.5mm Rokinon) and it works well.

Also, polarizer does work with wide lenses. The theory of polarizer is 90 degree angle from the sun. At wide angle, it covers a lot wider range which has different shade because of the changing angle of incidence.
 
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DMKAlex said:
Jan_Steinman said:
With the exception of polarizers, what can you do with filters that you cannot do in post?
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DMKAlex said:
If you are using it for video, which I am, ND filter is a must.
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Check out the STC clip-in filters . Buy one filter, use it with all your lenses, even if they don't have filter threads!

I have the ND set. Going to get the IR and astro sets as soon as the OM-1 comes in and I convert my E-M1.2 to full spectrum.

Jan
 
DMKAlex said:
I just took a video of a piece of property that I had just finished renovating. I found the 12-60mm is not wide enough to exaggerate the width like the ones the real estate broker's photographer's.

Thinking of getting a ultra wide and came up with Rokinon, Samyang and 7artisan 7.5mm as potential candidates.

I will be using this rarely. Probably use it for B-roll clips and my main lens would be the 12-60mm. So, I want to spend the least amount for a used one to add to my arsenal.

Any comment and suggestion?
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Since it is architecture, you may want to try a Laowa 10mm zero-D lens first and see if it is wide enough.
 
Jan_Steinman said:
DMKAlex said:
Jan_Steinman said:
With the exception of polarizers, what can you do with filters that you cannot do in post?
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If you are using it for video, which I am, ND filter is a must.
Click to expand...
Check out the STC clip-in filters . Buy one filter, use it with all your lenses, even if they don't have filter threads!

I have the ND set. Going to get the IR and astro sets as soon as the OM-1 comes in and I convert my E-M1.2 to full spectrum.

Jan
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I think the Rosco gel works just fine and it's a lot cheaper.
 
tammons said:
DMKAlex said:
I just took a video of a piece of property that I had just finished renovating. I found the 12-60mm is not wide enough to exaggerate the width like the ones the real estate broker's photographer's.

Thinking of getting a ultra wide and came up with Rokinon, Samyang and 7artisan 7.5mm as potential candidates.

I will be using this rarely. Probably use it for B-roll clips and my main lens would be the 12-60mm. So, I want to spend the least amount for a used one to add to my arsenal.

Any comment and suggestion?
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Since it is architecture, you may want to try a Laowa 10mm zero-D lens first and see if it is wide enough.
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I picked up a 7.5mm Rokinon Fisheye and it works well with lens correction.

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Now there is a 6.0mm Zero-D lens. I just looked at it at B&H. T 2.1. Fastest and likely widest lens for micro four thirds.

"Chinese lens manufacturer Venus Optics has introduced a new range of four cinema lenses for the Micro Four Thirds system. Three of the lenses are rehoused versions of existing focal lengths, while the new 6mm T2.1 becomes the widest rectilinear focal length for the mount.

The range comprises:
  • Laowa 6mm T2.1 Zero-D MFT Cine
  • Laowa 10mm T2.1 Zero-D MFT Cine
  • Laowa 17mm T1.9 MFT Cine
  • Laowa 50mm T2.9 Macro APO MFT Cine
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The 6mm T2.1 is a completely new design that offers a 121.9° angle of view and uses 13 elements in just 3 groups. Two aspherical elements in the construction help to achieve the Zero-D effect, and a 9cm (3.54in) closest-focus distance will offer users some interesting perspectives. The lens takes a 58mm filter, measures 61x53mm (2.4x2.08") and weighs 180g (6.35oz)."

From dpreview news article:

https://www.dpreview.com/news/82590...-for-cine-and-adds-ultra-wide-6mm-cine-zero-d
 
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DMKAlex said:
tammons said:
DMKAlex said:
I just took a video of a piece of property that I had just finished renovating. I found the 12-60mm is not wide enough to exaggerate the width like the ones the real estate broker's photographer's.

Thinking of getting a ultra wide and came up with Rokinon, Samyang and 7artisan 7.5mm as potential candidates.

I will be using this rarely. Probably use it for B-roll clips and my main lens would be the 12-60mm. So, I want to spend the least amount for a used one to add to my arsenal.

Any comment and suggestion?
Click to expand...
Since it is architecture, you may want to try a Laowa 10mm zero-D lens first and see if it is wide enough.
Click to expand...
I picked up a 7.5mm Rokinon Fisheye and it works well with lens correction.

9a897e75090a40f98297653e623d3e90.jpg


95900847ec3940f7a5dde83f7d2d23cf.jpg


b83bda57e06e4c7d8e3b4959c4dd84c2.jpg
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You need something ultra wide for bathrooms. I am considering the 6mm rectalinear lens.
 
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