NO EFCS in M6 II: a real shame

thunder storm wrote:

MAC wrote:

lumenite wrote:

MAC wrote:

wddxnyr wrote:

For this specific feature, I much prefer Sony's implementation. Their apsc sensors are also quite slow, but Sony still allows it. Having this option is certainly better than no option.

Having e-shutter that goes up to 1/16,000 rocks

i don’t think the m50II is a good solution for 1.4 primes in direct sunlight where you would need an ND filter

my RP has the problem of cut off bokeh with F1.4/1.2 primes above ss of 1/1000 starts to become noticeable

so even though there are some considerations when using m6II - I’ll take it for the positives

The reason bokeh is cut off above 1/1000 is because of EFCS, not because of electronic shutter, isn't it?

yes, it is ridiculous Canon designed the RP this way

Makes more sense than the M6II without EFCS.

I hear you

but given the choice of m6II with e-shutter and no EFCS and M50II with EFCS and no useable e-shutter, and considering the great F1.4 primes, I'd choose M6II over M50II

Cut off bokeh is only an issue with expensive large aperture primes, not with the RF 35&85mm IS stm lenses, only at faster shutter speeds. The RF f/1.2 primes are the only lenses being able to create cut off bokeh.

I hear you

You can even work around it with ND-filters.

yep, but yuk

that said - I knew this going in and bought my RP mainly for the RF 24-105 F4L which issues are not seen since shutter speeds are slower

you could see some bokeh issues with f1.2/f1.4 lenses used wide open outdoors at high ss but I'm not buying those expensive puppies for the RP

Not a whole lot of customers would want to do that I guess.

I might have wanted to, but they threw cold water on it

Canon knows how to dumb down

Yeah, but the most important spec of the RP is price,

yep - I paid $850 for mine

and another one is size,

yep - I can take both m6II and RP in one of my bags when I need the combo

so it's kind of justified in my opinion.

I dunno

To my eye no EFCS on the M6II is a bigger problem.

no useable e-shutter on RP is a bigger issue for me

Will they ever launch the camera I want - an m5II with IBIS and EFCS - probably not

Not going to happen. It's R5

too expensive

or only 20Mp

to few mpxl

or slow AF and no IBIS,

ridiculous in this day and age

or fast AF no IBIS

no excuse for no IBIS

no EFCS

crazy that they left out

or no IBIS no full mechanical.

crazy again

Pick your poison.

technically possible -- dumbing down -- crazy poison

but I've never bought a camera that didn't have compromises -- it is understanding them before you buy -- and they don't teach you these things -- I had to learn on he forums