Happy New Years M!

nnowak wrote:

dan the man p wrote:

nnowak wrote:

dan the man p wrote:

nnowak wrote:

The difference should be obvious. Lack of ongoing development looks a lot different from public announcements on pandemic related production shortages.

Sony discontinued the A7 II from 2014, A5100 from 2014, A7R II from 2015, and A6100 from 2019. Only the A6100 is a recent model. The A6400 and A6600 are from 2019 and ZV-E10 has not even been on the market for 6 months. All three of those models are on a pause due to parts shortages. This is all from Sony's official statements.

Are you sure that Canon has not slowed/stopped production on M models due to parts shortages? In the US, most of the M50 II and M200 kits are out of stock and on backorder. The RP kits are out of stock too.

Based on Canon's official statements, they are focusing on their high-margin models during the pandemic and parts shortages -- the same thing Sony is doing -- but they haven't abandoned or stopped production of the M.

And what was the excuse before the pandemic? The last M lens launched almost a year and a half before any pandemic related lockdowns.

The story is not hard to comprehend and has been explained over and over. Canon has been working on filling out their lineup of full-frame mirrorless cameras for the last several years. This is based on their own statements. Why are Sony's official statements good enough for you, but not Canon's?

I think you are completely misinterpreting my posts. Again, I never said Canon had killed off the M system. I believe both Sony and Canon are facing pandemic related parts shortages. Besides the cited Sony models, the M50 II, M200, and RP kits are out of stock. RLight is the one making nonsense claims that the pandemic parts shortage is just a front to kill off an entire APS-C lineup.

The EOS M system is clearly not a priority for them, but that also doesn't mean it's dead. The last body, which you unsurprisingly left out of your post by arbitrarily limiting it to lenses only, was released just over a year ago, well into the pandemic.

And it was just a firmware update to the original M50.

Since then, the only things that have changed are that the pandemic has dragged on longer than most people hoped, and there is now a worldwide chip shortage. None of this gives any reason to believe Canon's stance on EOS M has changed.

It is far more than chip shortages. Our local school district just posted that the local creamery can not get enough cardboard milk cartons for school lunches.

For the record, I never claimed Canon has stopped production of M cameras. I was responding to the nonsense from someone else who was claiming Sony's production disruptions were just a front for killing off the entire Sony APS-C lineup.

Hey, don’t be deflecting over here. I stopped feeding the monster by continuing the debate. You gotta answer for your own spinning of facts…