Happy New Years M!

RLight wrote:

nnowak wrote:

RLight wrote:

Nigge wrote:

Happy new year!

Just wish Canon said something about M and aps-c plans so we knew about the direction they will take. Will they terminate it altogether or what’s going on?

I think it's a fair bet that Canon will do something. Now that something may or may not be what folks around here are looking for. The M50 Mark II (which I have), wasn't exactly what was on most folks wish list for example when it came out. It is however useful and popular. The M6 II is an example of something that is a very good tool, so much so, Sony and Fuji still haven't answered the 32MP sensor, at 14FPS for that matter, or either. One of those two just went the opposite in fact.

In what way? There is a lot more to an image sensor than the number of megapixels. If you do need more megapixels, Sony has an 8k capable crop sensor (40+ megapixels) that should be showing up in new cameras this year. Also, I am pretty sure 26mp X 20fps > 32mp X 14fps.

Happy New Years Nnowak!

Fuji is dependent on Sony tech... Canon isn't.

No one is "dependent" on Sony. Sony has off the shelf designs, but they will also contract fab custom designs.

That 26MP isn't stacked. Nobody can do 20FPS with a mech shutter. So, 15FPS? Nice try.

Who said anything about mechanical shutter? We were talking about sensors. The 26MP sensor can do full sensor readout at 20fps. The M6 II can not even do a burst with electronic shutter unless you use workarounds with the focus stacking mode or the cropped RAW burst mode. Quite simply, the 26MP sensor has a much faster readout speed than the 32MP sensor. This is also why the 26MP sensor can do oversampled full sensor 4k and the 32MP senor needs to use line skipping and pixel binning in 4k. And no, the M6 II does not have less rolling shutter.

Besides faster readout speeds, the 26MP sensor produces lower noise and higher dynamic range than the 32MP sensor. The differences are not massive, but then again, 26MP versus 32MP is not a massive difference.

Oh, btw, on that Sony sensor note, now that Sony has left the APS-C segment, they CAN make more APS-C sensors, however they would only be for Fuji. Nikon has chosen to use the older 20MP FSI tech.

Nikon is looking at a new stacked sensor for crop mirrorless.

Does Sony have a stacked APS-C CMOS out there in the wings? Canon might beat them to the punch. Oddly as it may seem, Canon will probably get a stacked CMOS APS-C before Fuji does. That's a weird very upside-down thought that's probably true. The R may get it though, the M may or may not. Depends if Canon does another 90D/M6 II like event where they do an R7 and M7. They might. Canon's known to release their APS-C newest fabs prior to FF. An R7 with stacked CMOS in APS-C format would likely precede the upcoming R1 if Canon stays true to form. They may break with tradition though if supply constraints are an issue.

The 8K capable Sony sensor is stacked BSI, and we are just months away from seeing it in new camera models.

Canon specifically chose not to release the M5 II, even though the original M5 outsold the original M6 by a very large margin. There is zero chance that a far higher level M7 is on the horizon. Stacked sensors are expensive. There is a slim chance Canon could create a new stacked crop sensor for a hypothetical R7 (mirrorless 7D), but it would be far too expensive for anything in the M system.

You can tell the direction Canon's going from their statements and particularly the earning reports. The R is presently where things are going. Now I do disagree with that direction, and this is coming from someone who's shot that non-L RF glass. It's just not "fun" enough. It's not small enough. Canon's trying to outdo themselves with the RF format and supercede the M with it. Good luck with that Canon.