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Yes, it's great solution, but samsung did something similar many years ago in galaxy k zoom, but i admit - oppo solution looks better and it's waterproof :)



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Drzewoid said:
Yes, it's great solution, but samsung did something similar many years ago in galaxy k zoom, but i admit - oppo solution looks better and it's waterproof :)
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NO! Samsung didn't!
I think you understand that what Oppo is doing here is something different, on a smaller scale. It' snot putting a compact camera module on the back of a phone, and it looks no harder than putting a periscope horizontally inside the body of the phone with worse optics.
 
Panino Manino said:
Probably many already had thought about this, myself included. I was waiting for the day that phones would start using these types of camera modules with a retracted lenses. There's both the potential of reducing camera bumps and also fitting better lenses and variable zoom (I think).

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Generally speaking, I think moving parts is problematic (dust, water, malfunction).

The next thing I am waiting for in phone cameras is : Focus stacking.
The sensors are too big and the DOF is ridiculously shallow which makes the camera totally useless in short ranges.
Lumix had focus stacking since 2014, I think google can easily do it. It's pure software. You use the 8K video mode and quickly focus everywhere on the screen, then merge.
The AI will decide what should be in focus and what not (and obviously you could change that in post).
 
Drzewoid said:
Yes, it's great solution, but samsung did something similar many years ago in galaxy k zoom, but i admit - oppo solution looks better and it's waterproof :)
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panasonic also did it with CM1, CM10.



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The problem with the Samsung and Lumix: People want a phone that can make images, not a camera you can talk to and surf the internet. The Oppo is what we want :), but please no ColorOS...
 
Panino Manino said:
Just bring back variable aperture like Sony did and problem solved.
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Although it could be cool, I think that's it's more efficient to solve it in software. I mean, it's already available 7 years in Lumix cameras. Just copy it and add some google AI magic to it.

Then you can have it on all phones, not just the ones with variables aperture.
 
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After reading this thread I just had to ask----and it may already be old news here and I apologize if it is----but speculation that smartphones as they are today are obsolete when the Tesla pi phone is introduced in 2022. It appears that if the proposed functionality of the Tesla phone is real, you wouldn't be able to give away an Iphone. Whaddaya think?
 
Why is that? Does not seem to brag about special camera features, only starlink or whatever?
 
If the only reason people bought smart phones was for a camera and none of the other features like phone and connectivity , then almost everyone would just have a camera. It is the other tech features in the Tesla phone that will kill the iphone. It would be foolish to assume Tesla phone cameras would be inferior. I don't believe Musk would overlook that aspect of the device and produce something half a$$ed going up against Apple.
 
I figure what is going to matter is what it can actually accomplish in terms of results, and is it robust and at what cost.
 
Maybe, but if you want a phone for a phone only, even the cheapest phones on the market today are perfectly capable of being a good phone. No need for a smart phone.
 
Bob A L said:
Maybe, but if you want a phone for a phone only, even the cheapest phones on the market today are perfectly capable of being a good phone. No need for a smart phone.
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Sure, I guess that's why I have a flip phone and an ILC camera-But what percentage of smart phone buyers are like you guys who are concerned about quality photography from their phones and not just for social media snapshots. Those folks don't care about things like dynamic range and the very advanced tech features of a Tesla phone will appeal more to them sending iphone sales to the toilet.Especially if the Tesla cameras are equal or better. I am not in the market for any phone that isn't just a phone. It isn't likely that things will stay the same for very long these days. Who would have predicted the death of certain cameras and camera companies?
 
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