Please help me to choose a FF camera system (landscape, wildlife)

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OP filster7 New Member • Posts: 13
Re: Please help me to choose a FF camera system (landscape, wildlife)

techie takes pics wrote:

You've probably read that full frame is the 'best' so you must absolutely have full frame.

You want it so much that you're willing to compromise on lenses.

If you are the owner of a pizza shop, will you spend a lot of time deciding between a Ferrari or a Lamborghini for your delivery? Surely it matters, as the 'best' car delivers the best pizza's, right?

I always recommend that a camera is best equipped with lenses about 2-3 times the price of the body - as a rule of thumb.

If you spend your budget on the body and have to equip it with the cheapest kit lens, consider selling frozen pizzas, but hey, at least they are delivery by a Ferrari.

The lens defines the picture; the composition, sharpness, image quality. The camera merely records what it receives.
When you skew the balance too much towards the exiting black box with all the buttons and the high review scores, you run into the law of diminishing returns. A system delivers better pictures for your dollar or euro, if you apply some balance; the 1 : 2-3 ratio I suggested. Not: 1 : 0.1 .

For 2500, I would recommend either:

  • a 2500 body and expect to invest another 5000 in lenses, to unlock its potential; or:
  • 2500 as total budget, 600-800 on a body and the rest in fantastic lenses.

Lenses are important.

Hi, thanks for stopping by and for the advice. I just want to clarify some things.

The reason I want to invest in a system is that I would like to get back into photography. Currently I work in IT but there was a time when I worked in a specialized shop that was selling camera equipment and it was my responsibility to know the stuff that we were selling. So I was able to try almost everything that existed at that time in the "camera & lenses" realm. This meant everything from the basic point & shoots to FF cameras of that time. But it was 2006/2007 - so I had hands-on experience for example with Canons 80D, 5D, 1D MKIII or Nikons D200, D300, D3. The difference of picture quality (especially at high ISOs but also in terms of depth of field and other parameters) between for example the D300 and D3 was night and day. My experience might be outdated (that's why I asked for advice here) but I'd say the basic laws of physics still apply. I just wanted to get into FF right away since I know I'd appreciate the benefits of it. And I also understand that in order to fully benefit from FF (and also the higher resolutions) I need very good lenses.

Regarding my budget, as I wrote, the 2500 EUR is a ceiling for the body only. My limit for this purchase including lenses is around 5000 EUR. So far I'm looking at Sony A7III + Sony 24-105 f/4 + Sony 200-600 f/5.6-6.3 - this would cost me around 4500 EUR but I could get 500 EUR back through cashback. I read (and watched) reviews about those lenses and they seem to be more then capable performers. I also got a suggestion here in the thread to go with the A7RIII instead but that would cost me 700 EUR more so I'm a bit hesitant about it - I'm trying to weight the pros and cons for it (the final price would be 4700 EUR instead of 4000 EUR with the cashback counted in). I'd like to keep a financial buffer there for a nice tripod and a camera backpack + some filters.

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