Parting Ways with the M6ii

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Larawanista wrote:

Portability is of course still slightly to the M series camp. But the RP with 50mm 1.8 isn't that bad in terms of portability as well,

“Not that bad” (RP), and “Excellent” (M6ii) are on 2 different levels.

https://camerasize.com/compare/#815,829

You missed the part about "with 50mm 1.8"

Once you add the lenses, there is not much difference in size and only 2 grams difference in total weight

RP+RF 50mm f/1.8 vs. M6 II+EF-M 32mm f/1.4

https://camerasize.com/compact/#815,829.791,ha,t

You can't speak of a "bokeh quality to weight ratio," however, at the same weight I know what I prefer for my complex back grounds.

If "bokeh quality" is a primary consideration, then the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 should be the choice over either of these Canon options.

True, but that's not a free lunch, as it's a bit out of balance as it comes to other IQ aspects wide open.

speaking of IQ

In the IQ section of Bryan's m32 F1.4 review (the digital picture site), he compares the M32 to one of the most impressive IQ lenses on the planet, the EF 200 mm F2 L..

Like us, he is in awe --" the EF-M 32mm f/1.4 lens performs similarly to a lens costing over 12 times more."

"Take a great general-purpose focal length, pack it into a well-built, compact package, deliver impressive image quality, sell it at a relatively low price point and you have a winning combination. That succinctly sums up the Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM Lens. This is a very impressive piece of kit even without the tiny size, light weight and low-price factored in."

"It is worth buying an also-impressive and affordable little EOS M-series camera just to use this lens with. For a simple kit, it may be the only camera and lens needed and even professionals may find this combo a great backup option."

for me, it is just this -- a simple light weight kit, and sometimes all I need.

and at other times a great backup option

That is exactly what I am figuring out. I have an M100 with the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 (my only EF-M lens). I think that lens is almost equal to the Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4. It delivers very good quality on my M100. Now I would like to upgrade to M50ii or M6ii (don't know yet which one), and add the Sigma 56mm f/1.4. Seems a lot of fun to me, to have that combination. (And I will not buy other EF-M stuff.)

Your gear profile -- You seem to have similar path as me.

I've debated over and over about getting the 56 -- it is such a great lens. But with no IBIS and no IS -- I'd be needing a higher shutter speed (perhaps 1/160 + on my m6II to run it handheld).

Therefore, I bought the RF 85 F2 IS for my RP which I can drag the shutter down to ss 1/80 in low light situations and capture people who are not moving much. That saves an extra stop of light in certain situations.

But still -- I'd like to have the 56 -- so I may end up getting it -- it is such a great lens

On M6II versus M50II -- if you shoot in direct sunlight -- the M6II has e-shutter up to 1/16,000 so you would not have to use an ND filter.

Both the M6II and M50II have better focus, and eye focus, than your m100. If you are doing people shots with both your 30 and the56, then it would be worth an upgrade.

But you may also decide to stay with where you are at with m -- depends on your use case. I'm liking my M32 F1.4 and my 100L and my toki 10-17 on my m6II with also using DXO PL4 Elite. YMMV

When I am on the go or travelling, I always carry two (little) cameras. The RP with the RF35 f/1.8.

the RF 18-45 coming out sounds interesting. I will probably add if it is good.

And the M100 with the Sigma 30. The Ef-s10-22 somewhere in my luggage. I want better AF, and Eye-AF for people-pics. (And I need EVF for my eyes...) So I will switch the M100, perhaps I adapt the EF-s10-22 on it to stay there forever.

Now that sounds like a plan. The 10-22 is known for low distortions for such a wide angle.

The M50ii is such a little cutie, and not very expensive... Yes I know, these Sigmas don't have IS. But the RF85 is much bigger than the 56... I always try to get the most out of little cameras, instead of having the most expensive gear.

Good concept imo

For me: EF-M is alive and kicking. A lot of fun! And I still love my 6D, that old big boss. Only 1 good focus point, but the 6D keeps producing stunning top images.

I'll be using my RP + RF 24-105 F4 L for individual and group shots and my 6D with EF 35 F2 IS for backup shots as I shoot two cameras-- both with triggers on them -- and my lights with 60 inch umbrella -- for me -- the colors of the 6d and RP are from the old fab are the old Canon secret sauce colors that I love that Canon hasn't matched with their newer introductions and I'm not about profiling in software.

When a portrait matters, I use the 6D.

it gives great results for portraits

I don't need more. (But the R6 is tempting...)

well, think glass and size -- and getting away from your small size model -- those $2K + RF lenses are expensive -- this expensive glass is where the R6 and R5 sit imo to make them sing more than our RP/6D -- but at a much higher price -- whether it is worth it to you or not, only you can decide

My wife and I also use the G5Xii : don't underestimate that one! Very acceptable, very good, it keeps surprising me.

My M6II is the small for me

Smaller -- for me -- it must fit in jean's pocket -- latest iphone

best wishes and take care