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rf 16mm 2.8 - Raw Images (Normal Distance + Closeup)

Started Oct 16, 2021 | Discussions thread
OP crusliq New Member • Posts: 5
Re: Took a Look - Yep It can't focus the corners when close up

Each closeup was taken with the minimum focus distance (0.13m).

I will try to the next days some tests with different distances. You made me also super curious about how the picture changes.

Karl_Guttag wrote:

Thanks for taking the time. Looking at your pictures, I would agree that there seems to be little difference. About how close are you when taking the close-up pictures?

It seems the corners are going to be out of focus with very close focus. It would be interesting to know how far you have to get before the image stops improving.

It should not be a show stopper that the lens does not work well at close range as usually, you don't get that close with a very wide-angle lens. The question becomes, whether the range over which it does work is acceptable. If it is good from say a few yards/meters away, it is probably OK.

crusliq wrote:

Karl_Guttag wrote:

crusliq wrote:

Hi,

I just shot some images of a wall with a lot of detail to see the sharpness level of each aperture. I also did this closeup with minimum focus distance (13cm).

The pictures are shot with my EOS R.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ap8Y3G8kon1Zgo52hcV6f4EDNVItyQ?e=Npt5wu

I dont't know if its normal that you have this black circle vignette at closeup distance?

My opinion so far:

- heavy barrel distortion

- sharp corners around f5.6 at normal distances

- good closeup sharpness in the center area

Thanks for giving links to the RAW files!!!

My impressions:

  • The RF16mm barrel distortion looks nearly identical to the amount of barrel distortion the RF24-240 has at 24mm. I compared the curvature of the top of the wall versus mine of a test chart (after scaling my R5 shot), both using Adobe RAW with correction disabled. I also looked at the RF15-35, and it is vastly better (as one should hope with an L lens - some barrel but much, much less).
  • The "normal" photo looks about like I would expect with that much distortion. You will lose about 1/2 the resolution for the pictures in the corners due to the amount of correction required.
  • I notice there is very little improvement in sharpness in the corners with the "normal" distance photo between F2.8 and f8. I notice this with the RF24-240 as well. With that much image correction in the corners, the distortion and not focus is the main limiting factor.
  • I did notice a big difference in illumination uniformity between f2.8 and f8. And yes, I double-checked, and DPP4 had peripheral illumination correction on, but in both cases, I used the "default" amount, and obviously, the f2.8 needs more.
  • Wow, the closeup picture looks horrible from about 1/2 way out from the center. You don't even have to look at the picture magnified to tell it is a mess. It might be "field curvature," as in that focus varying from the center to the outside. It would be interesting to see what happens if your focus point was in one of the corners. Seeing this, I ran a quick check on my RF24-240, and when focused at the minimum focus distance and 24mm, and sure enough, it too looks horrible compared to "normal" distance shots. If the RF24-240 at 24mm focuses in the corner, the corner looks much better, but the center gets blurry. Probably best not to use either lens for closeups.

I just took some more images with different focus points (top left, center and middle right) and uploaded them to the share.

For me it seems that there is no or not much difference between the images of the different focus points.

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