Considering a G1X m3

Started Aug 11, 2021 | Discussions thread
Chris 222 Senior Member • Posts: 1,865
Re: Considering a G1X m3

jw10 wrote:

Chris 222 wrote:

jw10 wrote:

My Sony rx100ii is on its last legs after almost 14,000 shots.

This seems awfully low. FWIW I had well over 100K shots on my first G1X3, which was stolen.

I think it's a combination of things -- there is a small crack in the body -- probably my fault but an entry point for small dust. The camera often now won't detect the shutter press, won't stay in playback mode, or hold MF mode, many things like that. I have done factory reset and it doesn't really help. Heat seems to be an issue too. Could also just be I got a copy of the camera that wouldn't last as long as others.

So I've been considering a replacement.

I hike and backpack a lot, so size and weight are extremely key considerations.

This time round I really would like to have an EVF. Considerations are the newer rx100's, and Canon G5x, m2.

Only last week I discovered the Canon G1x m3. For only an addtional 4 oz over my rx100ii, I get an EVF, APSC sensor, weather sealing.

You get far more than this (check my posts on this forum.)

I'll check those out.

I'm also the author of this resource, written with the help of my photo hiking community, which is rather large and includes quite a few retired pros, industry mavens, etc. The G1X3 is by far our most used high-end compact cam - some even use it as a backup cam to their pro rigs and it's often quite hard to figure out which cam took which pic... .

Thus far with my rx100ii, it literally fits in my hip belt pocket on either my dayback or backpack, but just barely. So pretty much any upgrade I do requires having the camera accessible from some other location, which may be just a larger pocket lashed to the pack's hip belt. I will look at resource you have given me.

Reports on the lens seem to be generally good -- I've looked at many sample from different reviews and the lens is as good or better than any rx100 series as far as I can tell.

I can confirm this.

It may be a little less reach than some other choices, but I find it's rare that I use the 100mm (equiv) from my current rx100ii, and with a better lens, better sensor, the G1X m3 should be able to have a tighter crop and still have good resolution compared to a smaller sensor, so I think the reach comparison may be somewhat of a wash anyway.

The photosites on the G1X3 are far larger than on most 1" cams. Shoot in RAW and you will find that even with minimal post, its IQ is far superior.

That's what I expect. I have a Sony A6300 but it's just too heavy and a little large for my hiking/backpacking adventures. I'm that guy that weighs sunglasses to take the pair that weighs one gram less

It's fine. More importantly, macro work is considerably easier (and safer with some insects) if you just open up the swivel screen, grab its edges with your left hand, and gently approach flowers and bugs (works similarly with pets and small kids), something you just can't do with the selfie screens of the RX100s, G5X2, etc. No more crawling on your belly, hurting your back, etc.

Great info!

Other pluses include the same body alloy and shutter mechanism as the big Canon Ds (an absolute joy to use), the WP (I've used mine in pouring rain) the fast and sharp lens (f2.8 is all you ever need for hiking, not to mention that the flash is surprisingly powerful with a 30 ft reach) etc. etc.

Given the price of a G1X m3 is equivalent to the rx100's, and the lens focal length is looking acceptable, can you think of a reason to consider something other than the G1X m3?

Jeff, are you in the USA? I'm asking because I bought my second G1X3 from Canon USA as a refurb for roughly half the price of my first one. It supposedly was a refurb but it looked brand new to me.

Hope this helps a little!

I am in Tacoma, WA. Mt Rainier is 2 hours away. Olympics are about 3 hours. North Cascades about 4 hours...

Chris -- Thanks very very much for your thoughtful and informative post.

My pleasure Jeff.

I'll check out those other items you mentioned, and wow if I could get a refurb G1x iii I'd be delighted. I think the refurbs get very good attention to check for any possible flaws.

Based on my experience it's very true for Canon USA, and their price includes a REAL warranty, as opposed to the total crap offered by some other brands and/or their refurb vendors. I think this is akin to what one may find in certain auto dealerships that actually offer more QC checks and better warranties on used cars than on new cars!

Here's the link:

One other thought I wanted to offer has to do with where to carry your cam. Here's what I recently wrote in another thread to a poster who is looking to maybe dump his big Nikon DSLR kit on hikes and replace it with a little Sony:

"FWIW, the RX100M7 is a fine but fragile pocket cam with a 1" sensor (not FF.) Outside of the sky-high price, the soap-bar ergonomics are very poor. While hiking I personally tend to keep my "little marvel" (Canon G1X3, APS-C sensor, stellar build, IQ and features including WP) for wide-angle and general pics, in a side pocket (Nalgene-type bottle in the other) plus a small sensor cam in a hip pocket for long reach (birds and other wildlife.) I carry these 2 pocket cams even when I shoot with ILC kits, in which case I usually use them as backups."

You will find all the carry options discussed in the big resource linked above, but one thing I forgot to mention to him is that I sometimes simply slip my G1X3's bag (an old little Tamrac dug out of a drawer where I have many such small bags collected over the years) over one side of my hiking pack's hip belt, which brings the cam at my hip side, making it super convenient and quick to use. I can do that because this particular Tamrac happens to have a very wide (4 1/4 inch) and well-designed pass-through (velcro plus snaps) which is just awesome (most small bags have much narrower pass-throughs, or none at all.)


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