Not a Mirrorless in sight….

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straitouttahell Contributing Member • Posts: 672
Re: Not a Mirrorless in sight….

yray wrote:

straitouttahell wrote:

yray wrote:

I’m thinking Nikon will do themselves a favor if they keep DSLR line going, even if slimmed down to just a couple of models, for a while longer. They still have a dedicated following heavily invested in this mount, which probably will still be alive and kicking, and refreshing bodies and lenses for another decade or two.

In ML they are just also-runs with no obvious advantage over the competition.

I’m actually curious what would have happened if Nikon were releasing their ML in both F and Z mounts. Same exact models. Would be a nice test of the new mount viability, but then, obviously, they wouldn’t be able to push new expensive lenses on the early adopters.

That's a kind of comment I stumble upon every so often.

According to which, Nikon's future should depend on those users who just want to buy another one or two bodies in the rest of their lives and hang on to those half-century old lenses

Those are Nikon’s best users.

No, they aren't. Nikon's best users are those who buy new Nikon products.

The remainder falls into two categories: those who buy a cheap kit and never bother to buy another lens,

Oh, those are probably the kind of users Nikon misses most.

and those who’re always looking for the latest and greatest because photography for them is all about technology.

Those must account for something, but I suspect they are far less relevant one may think.

That latter group is the most vocal around here but might be somewhat underrepresented in the real world.

I'm not sure that is going to keep Nikon alive for a long time.

If they stayed with the F-mount they could have their cake and eat it too. Don’t tell me you can’t make a good lens in F mount.

You can. But why would you carry in the future a thing of the past?

Nikon has done it, and Sigma has been really pushing the envelope. But of course it is much more attractive to start selling the same lenses all over again at jacked up prices in the whole new mount. If this is how you want to spend your income, that’s your prerogative, but I will pass.

Look at my gear list. I'm not one that buy the latest and greatest. Heck, I've even bought a D2x in 2021 just because I realized I never liked a photo I've taken since the advent of Expeed

Nikon is making the best lenses they ever released, thanks to Z-Mount. With FTZ, you can use everything from AF-S on. Even old AI lenses enjoy a second youth, thanks to live view and focus peaking.

The way AI lenses enjoy a second youth they may enjoy it with any other ML brand with the dumbest of adapters. The only difference will be they won’t record your aperture in EXIF.


Have you tried the competition? I have.

Sony is joking. Their UI is an experiment on how far you can stretch ones patience before they go berserk.

Canon's sensors are getting in 2021 where Nikon was in 2010, in terms of DR

Olympus is the most serious of them, but that small sensor is just a tad too small.

Which of them are you going to buy, just to avoid letting Nikon have it their way?

The only ones who were left behind are the AF-D owners. Ouch.

Ouch? Their 85, 105, 135, 180 AF-D are anything but. And I can probably think of a few more.

If you will miss those lenses, I have bad news and good news.

Bad news is, you are not Nikon's future.

Good news is, the D850 is still in production..

I wouldn't say Nikon didn't to well with their Z cameras. Those who are invested in F mount have a good chance to keep using what they have using the adapter.

But why? Why would I want to buy a new body and an adapter if the older body is already so good, needs no adapter, and has a superior viewfinder, battery life, ergonomics and controls, etc.

As I wrote above, if you feel it that way, it's no problem. Just buy a D850. The future of photography is made of people who post vídeos on YouTube and screw cameras below small helicopters. Those are the guys who are spending the money now, those are the people that must be served if you want to stay alive.

If you dont like it, start spending money again

As per AF-D lenses owners, that's probably about time they upgrade. Newer lenses are better.

The question is: are they better enough to make a noticeable enough difference in practice to justify the exorbitant expense. In other words, would anyone notice? I’m pretty sure I know the answer

I wouldn't notice if 90% of the posters of this forum would switch back to a D100

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