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Canon M50 mark II eye-AF better than M6 mark II?

Started Jul 16, 2021 | Discussions thread
thunder storm Forum Pro • Posts: 10,139
Re: Canon M50 mark II eye-AF better than M6 mark II?

MAC wrote:

thunder storm wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

thunder storm wrote:

R2D2 wrote:

It wasn't about the lens in general. It was specifically about the 32mm on the M50mkII. I don't know if the firmware improved things compared to the M50I, but I do know it has the same sensor with slower readout compared to the M6II.

Along with its slower EVF refresh rate.

I don't even see the difference between a faster and slower rate.

What we need is more M50ii owners here!

I think without critical M50II owners it will be hard to find out how fast the 32mm would track in subject/face+eye tracking mode at closer distances.

but I haven’t owned either of those bodies. I almost picked up an M50ii to use as a dedicated macro camera, but it isn’t quite a good enough fit for me.

R2

It's discussed before. It isn't about speed of the subject only. There are two other factors in play:

- distance camera-subject. The closer the subject is the more challenging it gets.

- used AF method. If you use single AF point and do the tracking yourself it's not the same as using the subject tracking mode on the camera.

The latter is what I'm doing and doing this on the M6II there's still a significant difference in capability of tracking fast subjects between the ef-m 32mm and my Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 Art. A also noticed the 32mm keeps up a bit easier with the first AF method/technique.

Yup. Exactly the reason I use Spot AF and track the subject myself (facilitated by using the back LCD for increased situational awareness). AF is waaay faster, much stickier, and more accurate (esp with an STM lens like the 32). IME you need the horsepower of something like the R5 to fully benefit from these fancy subject tracking modes.

I know you're using the first method, and I assume you probably have your - admittedly fast moving - subjects a bit further away.

Near, far, the M6ii + EF-M 32mm (with Spot AF) provides me with a nearly 100% hit rate, in even the toughest lighting conditions, with some of the most difficult subjects possible. How about indoor basketball in a poorly-lit High School gym?

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4471373?page=2

Or a nighttime mountain bike race?

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4464775

Virtually a 99% AF hit rate here is crazy over the top!

And I’ve always stated from the day the M6ii was released (and in my hands), that Eye AF was best utilized with close (humans). So be advised.

Happy shooting my friend!

R2

When I'm saying to Mac "make sure it fits your needs" it's about the speed of subjects he shoots, the AF method/technique he uses and at what distance he's shooting fast moving subjects, and even if he would prefer the M50II over the M6II.

Mac can check himself what his needs are, don't worry.

I know the M6II + 32mm fits your needs.

what I’d like to know is the M50II as good as the M6II with eye focus and face detection in tracking grandchildren moving with the 32 F1.4

All I can do for you is some tests using eye AF and face detection with the 32mm on the M6II and compare it to the R5 + 50mm Art  or EF 24-70mm f/2.8 II.

You've bought yourself that RF 24-105mm f/4.0, and to my eye that lens just screams to be paired to the R6 as that's a perfect combo to track kids.  With moving kids a zoom isn't a bad thing anyway. You can worry about weight, but a zoom saves you a whole lot of moving.

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