Future of EOS-M cameras and EF-M lenses...

keeponkeepingon wrote:

Satyaa wrote:

this summer. And I started looking for a camera smaller than DSLR, and small primes.

Primes are perhaps the weekest segment of the EOS-M ecosystem.

From Canon we have 22, 28, and 32mm covering a whopping 10mm.

Is there any ecosystem today with such a week prime lineup?

3rd party support is also weak (compared to sony etc)

Sony's last APS-C prime came out in 2013; they do have six altogether; none of them are f/1.4 and although their FF primes can be used without an adapter they're not generally that small.  For later or faster glass Sony rely on the Sigma and Viltrox lenses that are becoming available for Canon EF-M.

Fuji have an impressive range of APS-C primes, some of which are small, and more promised.  Their 50mm f/1 though is the equivalent of a FF 75mm f/1.5 but more expensive than a FF 85mm f/1.4 and the promised 200mm f/2 will be huge.  Fuji can afford to make exciting APS-C lenses because they don't make equivalent of faster FF lenses.

And that's the problem with APS-C primes.  The headline grabbing ones we drool over are too big and expensive to actually use and the small ones have so much price and size competition from independent Korean and Chinese manufacturers.

but it does give us a few more options..... if you are OK with third party glass. There's the sigmas/viltrox but I don't think they count as "small primes" all of them are quite large.

Rokinon makes a few small primes but they are manual focus.

Did I miss anything?

Adapted rangefinder cameras lenses, but they're all manual focus, mostly second-hand, and the good ones are expensive.

But you only need one lens and if 22mm is good enough for you you are "good to go". It's an OK lens for the size/price but personally I don't think it's super great. The 32mm is suposedly better but it's also quite a bit bigger. Is it a "small prime"? Not compared to the 22mm or canon's 40mm but I'd say it's small for an F1.4 prime. But even so, depending on your pockets, it may affect the caryaroundablity of the system:

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