M50 vs M6 mark ii vs 90D vs eos RP photography mainly

nolten wrote:

I certainly don't want to get in between you and AdamT but most of your arguments seem to be very narrow opinions to me.

I have both the M6II and 90D. They are both excellent cameras but useful for very different purposes.

thunder storm wrote:

No. Thet handling is good with the M6mkII, as you can use it with the viewfinder, and bad with the 90D, as it's crazy heavy to hold in front of you.

I don't like using the rear viewfinder on either camera for general photography. I mostly use the EVF with my M and G and the optical viewfinder with my DSLRs. Holding the camera to your eye is much more stable than holding a camera cell phone style. However I've successfully used all my flip screen display cameras for odd positioning such as overhead or close to the ground when necessary. Finally, its the size of the lens that affects the stability of using the rear LCD.

For crop cameras there are no better options on this "endless" list for the

- Samyang 12mm f/2.0

- Canon 11-22mm

- Sigma 16mm

- Sigma 30mm

- Sigma 56mm

There are also no better options for crop cameras than the adapted Sigma 18-35mm and 50-100mm f/1.8, as those won't work properly on the 90D.

Furthermore: every lens that can be mounted on a 90D can be adapted on a M6mkII.

When it comes to glass options there's just one conclusion possible: M wins. Period.

Wrong! All of the M lenses you mention, with one exception, are fast non-IS primes. The Samyang is not only manual focus but manual exposure. This may suit your style of shooting but its not universal. I prefer IS zooms for the convenience, flexibility and the stabilization.

That's o.k., in that case M - except for the 11-22mm - doesn't have an advantage over ef-s for your shooting needs. At the same time it still doesn't have a disadvantage as it comes to lens collection.

I really try to keep my lens changes to a minimum while traveling. I've been in digital photography for 18 years and the only non-IS lenses I own for my DSLRs are the 24mm TSE, and a 20mm Voightlander pancake. For the M I have the Samyang Rokinon 12 and Sigma 56 but I consider both of these special use lenses.

Special or not, those are options hard to replace with ef-s equivalents.

The main lenses I use on my M are the 11-22, EF-S 35 f2.8 IS macro, and either the 55-250 or 70-300 IS II.

I can't imagine spending all day in a dusty Toyota Landcruiser in the Serengeti with my 100-400 on the M. Besides the ergonomics and the lack of weather sealing, the M is rated for 305 images while the 90D is rated for 1300.

You could buy a 12v plug with USB C PD connection to charge the M6mkII.

Even for a day at the zoo I'd prefer the 70-300 II on the 90D.

I don't see why it's a problem to change a battery at the zoo?

The excellent EF-S 15-85 or 24-70 f4 L are much more ergonomic on the 90D.

I loved the 15-85mm on my M50 as my lightweight walk around zoom. Way lighter compared to the sigma 18-35mm f/1.8. Not using those zooms anymore as I have a 24-70mm f/2.8 for my R now.

And this is personal, but I prefer an optical viewfinder to electronic.

Yes that's a good point. My wife prefers optical viewfinders too. Optical viewfinders are kind of irreplaceable as they don't suffer from moving pixel pattern things with diagonal lines like EFVs do. For me it's not a problem, but if you hate that aspect of EVFs the OVF is still the way to go.

The M6II is a very versatile camera to have in your daypack with the lenses I listed above. Even so I supplement it with my G1X3 to fill in the lack of an excellent standard M zoom.

I've used the 15-85mm IS USM and the sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 without any problems on my M50.  I've never bought the ef-m 18-150mm, however, I don't see what's wrong with that lens, as it will be kind of on par with the ef-s 15-85mm IS USM.

The M is a handy accessory with my full frame DSLRs and EF zooms. So I'm not saying your preferences are wrong for you, just that you can't apply them universally.

The only thing I applied universally is the option to mount lenses on M being better than ef-s equivalents.  If those lenses suite your needs is another thing.