M50 vs M6 mark ii vs 90D vs eos RP photography mainly

AdamT wrote:

xeppelin wrote:

AdamT wrote:

It doesn't matter if no one ever makes any more new EF glass because the list of them is endless , the M system is a totally different matter .... If canon make a decent standard M zoom of the same quality as the 11-22 even if its as slow and do the right thing and put EFCS in the M6-II

1. even if Canon would not release any more EF-M lenses, there would still be all current EF-M, EF-S and EF lenses available. It would last for many more years.

2. I agree. A better standard zoom matching 11-22 in IQ and price! would be great. EF-M 15-50/2.8-4.0 IS STM ...

3. is EFCS really that important? When there is a fully electronic shutter?

3 , yes - the scan rate is pretty slow (bendy images) and of course indoors with low energy lighting , i`m sure those who favour non IS lenses have less of a problem but even the biggest M6-II fan on here (Alistair) said it even effected the 11-22 .

That's true, but only slightly, and only in a fairly limited range. And for my use of the 11-22, which is pretty much exclusively outdoor landscapes, using electronic shutter has no downsides. The bendy images that you might get only happen with fast movement, either of the camera or subject. I've never encountered any of those using the 11-22 with e-shutter.

we know the camera is capable of EFCS as its in the 90D but for some unaccountable reason, canon obtusely refuse to update the camera with it ..

Would it be better if we had EFCS on the M6II? Yes. Has the lack of it ever made a difference to any of my photos? No, not a single one. But that's mostly because shutter shock doesn't seem to affect primes, which are what I mostly use, and all my use cases for my IS lenses (11-22, 18-150) are fine with e-shutter or at high enough shutter speeds (sports with the 70-200) that there's no chance of shutter shock with mechanical.

I`ll never understand the logic of Japanese camera makers or apparent lack thereof in some cases - what do they have to gain by missing off EFCS off the M6-II ? when every other M camera ever made has it , it`s hardly likely to lose them RP or 90D sales is it ? .

I understand the frustration with Canon not including EFCS on the M6II. By all means, vent and rant about it. But before deciding against buying a superb camera because of the lack of EFCS, you should really think hard about whether and how often you need it. If you go with a camera that is worse for your needs for 99.9% of your shooting, because it's better for that 0.1%, you'd really be cutting off your nose to spite your face.