Curious about why Mirrorless

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davev8
davev8 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,155
Re: Curious about why Mirrorless

Lori2 wrote:

1st you need to decide why you want FF. if you want less noise at high ISO and shallower DOF then FF is what you want but if noise and DOF from APS-c is fine for you then you do not need FF or the increase in size.

definitely looking for better low light performance. Number one reason.
I’ve had an AE-2, Elan ll, and got the Digital Rebel when it came out. I wasn’t crazy about the crop sensor from the git go. I didn’t like to have to do math to figure out the actual field of view.

I'm planning on getting the RP, the kit lens and maybe the 50mm 1.8. Hopefully find an adapter for the few full frame lenses I have. That way, I'm still pretty small but have the ability to use other lenses as needed.

For example, hopefully someday I'll get to go to Israel again, and I ordered a used Tokina 16-28 2.8 for inside shots in tight spots. The lens looks like a beast, but I'll leave it in the bus if there's no need for it.

you are braver than me if you would leave a lens on a bus

On these trips the bus is like a second home. Everyone leaves their stuff in while we are on site. The bus driver locks the bus and watches it.

thats good

but the kit lens on the RP is wider than your 16-28 and has the same shallow DOF at the short end FF equivalent to 16mm is 25 or 26mm...you just saved yourself some weight

Not sure I follow? The 16-28 is constant 2.8, I’m looking at the cheapie kit lens that starts at f4. I’m thinking I’ll want towards the wide end of the 16-28 anyway.

the full frame equivalent of a 16-28 F2.8 on APS-c for the same field of view and depth of field   is 25.5mm - 44.8mm F4,5 so the RP kit lens starts at 24mm so is wider and starts at F4 so the DOF will be shalower on the RP kit at F4 lens than your 16-28 F2.8 on APS-c

That's the thing when you look at the size difference of lenses for FF vs APS-c ..for same DOF you can have a lens 1 stop slower on FF to do the same job...so both lenses (if there is an equivalent) are about the same size .....but the downside is with the slower FF lens you lose the 1 stop noise agvantage ..but you may get that back with the RP kit lens being stabilized

But for portability and general use, use the 50. Heck back in the 70's, all I had for my AE-1 was the 50, a 28, and 135 telephoto. And was perfectly happy!

i think an RP with the 24-105 and a prime like the 50 or 35 theirs is not much you can't do and will fill a very tiny camera bag ..the RP and kit lens at 105 mm will crop way past your AE-1 and 135mm prime on film .

I’m looking forward to putting together a travel size full frame kit. I considered Sony, cause technically I need new lenses anyway, but I’m a Canon girl ( old lady actually!) at heart, familiar with their menu system and just feel at home with Canon. Plus the price is right.
If nothing else, I assume it’s a step up from my 60D and M50.

yes i did try sony APS-c with a sony NEX as it was the 1st affordable second hand  APS-c MILC as we have twin boys and at 18 month old i not think me and the wife could  not physically carry them through an airport  with my 5D 3 F2.8 lenses a fast prime and a macro lens ..the NEX did not have a viewfinder and i REALLY did not like the sony colors and skin tones and evan with a LOT of editing i could never get the color as good as my canons ..i did look at upgrading, looking at newer sony  with an EVF  and models up to the A6000 but the sony colour put me off ..but i had got used to a small camera alongside my FF 5D so i get a SL1/100D (same sensor as your 60D) and it was like a breath of fresh air back to canon colours ...i upgraded the 100D to a M5 and really liked the 11-22 lens but as canon not update the M5 ..i was not rely happy with the AF ,,its not as good as your M50 ..so i have decided to replace the M5 and my 5D with  1 body a R6 (over my normal second hand budget for a frash camera by over X3)

so what was i rambling about ...oh yes being a canon girl you might not like sony colours

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There is no argument for FF vs APS-c (or m43) with shallow DOF..as it's a law of physics and a very subjective personal thing if you want to make use of the shallow DOF only FF can offer
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