Leica Q2 M or Leica Q2

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highdesertmesa Regular Member • Posts: 461
Re: Leica Q2 M or Leica Q2

brick33308 wrote:

Robgo2 wrote:

I own (and love) my Q2. It is an amazing street camera. I frequently convert the color images to B&W in ON1 Photo RAW. The results are excellent. About two weeks ago, I surrendered to GAS and purchased a Q2M. What I have learned is that everything that M-Monochrom users have been saying for years is true. The difference in B&W image quality is real and it is not trivial. This difference is due to a combination of detail, sharpness and especially tonality. There seems to be almost no limit to how far shadows can be pulled. Some of the prints I have made are astounding. The images almost fly off the paper. Even my wife is impressed. Her immediate response was "Wow!"

Is the Q2M worth its lofty price? For me it is, but I can speak only for myself. In any case, one needs to have a second camera (preferably with interchangeable lenses) for color shooting. In addition to the Q2, I have a CL with a nice set of lenses.

I'm glad you're enjoying it. But let's be real, how many people laying out that price are going to say "I hate it"?

Also can you elaborate exactly what you mean by tonality and how it differs from that of your Q2?

Better tonality is having smoother transitions between different values (value = a point in the scale from black to white) – basically more shades of gray between dark and light. It gives images made with the Leica Monochrom an almost surreal look where you can have normal contrast but cinematic tonal transitions that span the full Zone System with grace and finesse.

And whomever above was saying there wasn't much sharpness difference between the Q2 and Q2M – I don't agree – at all. The Q2M is noticeably sharper than my GFX 50R with the best GF primes (45/110). On the GFX I can punch in to 200% and the image still looks good, but with a properly-steadied Q2M shot I can hit 300% and it doesn't start looking pixelated/digital until 400% zoom. If someone isn't getting that kind of performance, then a few things may be going on – 1) eyesight issues (don't laugh, lots of people have never had their eyes checked and don't know for sure they can see 20/20), 2) they are not using ISO 100 (ISO 200 is the default, and Leica says it's the Base ISO for the Q2M, but it is NOT – Photos to Photos charts confirm this) and/or 3) they are not stabilizing the camera well enough. The Q2M can look sharp at 100% when hand holding, but it takes ISO 100 and a tripod (or 1/250-500 sec. or higher shutter speed) to get what it's truly capable of. Just fiddle-farting around with the Q2 versus Q2M hand held at 1/50–1/125 sec. in a camera shop will not show you what is achievable with the Mono.

If you have literally ANY digital camera, you can take it with you and "dual-wield" with the Q2M. Using an X100V would be the perfect companion to the Q2M for when you need color. I use the Q-P alongside the Q2M, but the X100V is a much more reasonable choice, mainly due to its smaller size. The compact Ricoh GR III for a color companion might even be better.

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