Good cheap second to my g85

alcelc wrote:

JakeJY wrote:

Tom Caldwell wrote:

Is the GX8 actually smaller?

I have the GX85 and GX7 and frankly I use them interchangeably and don’t really notice the difference despite the “updates” they are basically much the same camera in use.

AFAIK these cameras are only “smaller” because they are flat tp humpless and (almost) gripless - they pack in a bag much easier.

Nor would I consider them second-rate as backup.

The GX85 has Dual IS and 4K and overall the interface/options is going to be more similar given it is from the same era as the G85. I remember one sticking point for example is the older cameras like GX7 don't have Auto-ISO in manual mode (but GX85 does, although it still doesn't have EC in manual). You do lose the tilt EVF though.

100%.

More over, the 4K video, 4K photo, post focus, 4 bracketing in stead of 1 on GX7, the fantastic Dial Operation Switch, DFD, and a new m-shutter... Not to mention that removal of AA filter makes SOOC jpg from GX85 visibly sharper. Also the improved jpg engine allows GX85 to use ISO3200, a stop higher than GX7 for cleaner SOOC JPG as well. Then while GX7 can produce hot pixel free image upto <5" without LENR, GX85 can do upto 60".

A lot of reasons to go for GX85 rather than GX7, except for the upward tilteable evf, deeper hand grip and 12 bits e-shutter.

All points taken - but cameras are not the sum of their “features” - despite having the GX85 and the GX9 (as well as the “supremo” G9) I still use the GX7 quite a lot and I feel none the less that the GX7 was a landmark in its day and still well worth having. My GX7 is not ready to be retired just yet.  If money is more important than a bag of “latest features”then a GX7 must be impressive good value - and I set zero store by a hinged evf.

I suppose that someone who finds the GM5 also still very capable should also be appreciative of the GX7 and of course I am still acknowledge all the “feature goodies”  of the G9.

Like .... a camera is a camera and the GX7 is still the standout of the day when it was first released and raved about.

I suppose ....  what the heck, just take my money and give me the G9 as is the present king, but how soon until the king is dead,  ..... long live the king ...?  Every “king” has a bunch of new features - these days it is almost always “better video”.