Best NR software for High ISO on R5

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xtam667 Regular Member • Posts: 137
Re: Best NR software for High ISO on R5

David Franklin wrote:

xtam667 wrote:

Hoka Hey wrote:

Lots of NR software is on sale today, Cyber Monday.

What is your favorite noise reduction software for high ISO noise with the R5 and why?

I'm currently getting the best results from LR (actually ACR) and PS but it takes some time to get it right using a subject layer with lower NR, masking and a background layer with higher NR. So, I'd love to streamline this.


Almost the same here. I use one higher noise reduction layer above the original background layer and mask as needed, sometimes varying the opacity of the brush. I dial in a lower amount of noise reduction for the subject in LR before going to PS.

That is, up to now. I have just bought PhotoLab. With DeepPRIME I now see no need for this. I just send from LR to PhotoLab, apply corrections, lens sharpness and noise reduction there, and export back to LR for everything else. No more tedious masking. I now feel that if this is not good enough then it is not worth bothering with the picture in the first place. Maybe except if I captured a rare endemic bird at some insane ISO.

Here is a quick comparison between an LR only and a DeepPRIME processed shot. The original version is quite good already so this might not be the best example of what this stuff is capable of. The point is that is easier and faster than all previous Photoshop + various plugins I tried with at least similar if not superior results. The processing is actually not that fast, but you save time on the masking part, which is difficult to do seamlessly.

That is an amazing example of software "intelligence" in not seeming to affect the fine detail while doing a near perfect (maybe even too perfect) job of eliminating any noise in the image; I don't think I've ever seen anything that good before.

I do, however, have a question about workflow. I, like so many others, usually process my raws in Lightroom, then go on to Photoshop - and often camera raw within Photoshop - to complete my processing. Because I can't afford, especially when shooting jobs with hundreds or even thousands of images, to process them in something like DXO, I want to stick with Lightroom and Photoshop for functions other than this remarkable de-noising. So, how would I proceed? Do the raw conversion in Lightroom and send the Tiff or Jpeg to DXO and then back to Photoshop? Or is this denoising only able to be done to raw files, in which case, what is the product of the denoising, as far as the resulting file format? Tiff, Jpeg, DNG? If this results in DNG files, which I never have used, that I can further process in Lightroom, are they more difficult to use to achieve a proper color, brightness and contrast result than would be so for the native CR2 or CR3 format for which Adobe (supposedly) already has proper profiles?

Please let me know.

The simplest and most effective way in my view is to transfer the raw file to DXO, do the corrections and then export back a DNG to Lightroom. You can export back in TIFF or Jpeg as well, with different options on which corrections to apply. DNG behaves the exact same way as any other raw format in LR. As opposed to TIFF or Jpeg, you have the Kelvin scale for white balance. Copy/paste settings from CR2 or CR3 to DNG works just as expected. The only limitation that I found is that keywords are not preserved by DXO, only ratings and labels.

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