Sony A7Rii and Sony/Zeiss 35mm F2.8 v Fuji X100V

Started Oct 27, 2020 | Discussions thread
The Davinator
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Re: Consider the RX1 and RX2 models (used) instead.

Mike Fewster wrote:

adam10 wrote:

PWPhotography wrote:

Andy873 wrote:

adam10 wrote:

I recently posted a thread comparing the Fuji X100V with the Sony A7R ii with the Loxia 35mm. A huge thank you for your kind feed back. After much deliberation I think autofocus combined with manual focus would suite me better hence much interest in the Sony/Zeiss 35mm F2.8 ( Like its small size )

I have some more questions , if you would be so kind as to answer. I do appreciate it.

I am very keen on purchasing a used Sony A7Rii with the Sony/Zeiss 35mm F2.8. I like the look of the small combination. I had considered previously a Fuji X100V.

  • The Fuji X100V lens has an excellent reputation with edge to edge sharpness. The Sony/Zeiss 35mm F2.8 has a good reputation albeit that it is softer towards the edges / corners of the frame. The A7Rii obviously has a much larger M/P count ( 42mp compared to 26mp of the Fuji ) Despite the X100V lens being sharper Is the Sony A7Rii and Sony/Zeiss 35mm F2.8 lens going to produce a sharper / more detailed into the corner / edge print ( say 30” X 20 “ ) than the Fuji X100V ? I realise that the full frame advantage will possibly show better DR, colours etc etc !

Thank you for reading this.

Many thanks.

Adam.

I have used all of these.

The zeiss 35/2.8 is a terrible lens for the price, it isn't sharp and isn't even as sharp as the X100V lens. Even the much cheaper Samyang 35mm f/2.8 is sharper.

LOL. Can you post a full size (only 26mp) from X100V as I did from 42mp A7r II + 35/2.8 ZA? Posted again here. You can stop down to whatever you wanted I can tell you at such 42mp size (imagining to enlarge 26mp to 42mp, hehe), not even close.

However Fuji's party trick filter array makes the sharpness not great at the sensor level, on top of the reduced sensor size and pixel count. So if you want an f/8 shootout the Sony should win. But wide open, you might find the fuji winning.

Oh, now having an excuse You really cannot deny sensor size factor that FF sensor is much bigger than APS-C. So frequently even a theoretically inferior FF lens on FF sensor is still sharper than a 'superior' APS-C lens on APS-C sensor. That's call 'magnification' factor, the same as digital cropping.

Here is FE 35/2.8 ZA @f2.8 wide open on A7r II, full size. Can you post X100V @f2.0 wide open (that is eq to FF @f3.0) at 26mp full size?

very wide hotel building, @f2.8 wide open, full size. Edit: re-posted this true full 42mp size sample at my standard lens test site.

As I said this lens is not among the sharpest prime lenses below 50mm FL but still sharper than APS-C ff eq 35mm AOV lenses because of much larger FF sensor that enlarged pixels much less. I replaced the lens with Loxia 35/2.0 that in turn replaced by Voigtlander FE 40/1.2 Nokton, not only much faster in aperture but even sharper with fantastic sunstar.

Here are 3 more real-world samples from this FE 35/2.8 ZA. Sure in landscape/cityscape you stop down usually. Show us your stop-down full size samples from X100V?

Prague, Czech Republic. 100% cropped or full size

Prague, Czech Republic from the Charles Bridge. 100% cropped or full size

Salzburg, Austria

Thank you to everybody who has contributed thus far. Got to say PWPhotography that I like your images. That look great in my opinion in LR5 at 2-1. Thanks again. Adam

If you want just 35mm focal length, look at the RX1 and Rx2. You get FF and the superb Zeiss 35 F2. There's a lens that really performs wide open. The thing is relatively small and light. The sensor/lens re hand mounted to high tolerances (higher than can be done with interchangeable lenses ) and has often been thought to be one of the reasons for the very high IQ from these cameras.

The Rx2 has a tilt screen and a pop up viewer. It also has faster af and more megapixels than the RX1. The RX1 IQ is never the less outstanding. It is more versatile than many expect. The lens has quite a useful macro mode. The files are ultra croppable, especially from the A7R2, When I had one, I figured the versatility as about equal to 24 to 75mm. I especially liked stitching when in portrait position to get WA shots.

Of course, this pre supposes that this focal length range is what you want.

Good idea.  A friend of mine who is a photojournalist uses the RX2 and loves it.  I have been waiting to see if a version 3 comes out.

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