Sony A7Rii and Sony/Zeiss 35mm F2.8 v Fuji X100V

Started Oct 27, 2020 | Discussions thread
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Re: Sony A7Rii and Sony/Zeiss 35mm F2.8 v Fuji X100V
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Andy873 wrote:

PWPhotography wrote:

Andy873 wrote:

adam10 wrote:

I recently posted a thread comparing the Fuji X100V with the Sony A7R ii with the Loxia 35mm. A huge thank you for your kind feed back. After much deliberation I think autofocus combined with manual focus would suite me better hence much interest in the Sony/Zeiss 35mm F2.8 ( Like its small size )

I have some more questions , if you would be so kind as to answer. I do appreciate it.

I am very keen on purchasing a used Sony A7Rii with the Sony/Zeiss 35mm F2.8. I like the look of the small combination. I had considered previously a Fuji X100V.

  • The Fuji X100V lens has an excellent reputation with edge to edge sharpness. The Sony/Zeiss 35mm F2.8 has a good reputation albeit that it is softer towards the edges / corners of the frame. The A7Rii obviously has a much larger M/P count ( 42mp compared to 26mp of the Fuji ) Despite the X100V lens being sharper Is the Sony A7Rii and Sony/Zeiss 35mm F2.8 lens going to produce a sharper / more detailed into the corner / edge print ( say 30” X 20 “ ) than the Fuji X100V ? I realise that the full frame advantage will possibly show better DR, colours etc etc !

Thank you for reading this.

Many thanks.

Adam.

I have used all of these.

The zeiss 35/2.8 is a terrible lens for the price, it isn't sharp and isn't even as sharp as the X100V lens. Even the much cheaper Samyang 35mm f/2.8 is sharper.

LOL. Can you post a full size (only 26mp) from X100V as I did from 42mp A7r II + 35/2.8 ZA? Posted again here. You can stop down to whatever you wanted I can tell you at such 42mp size (imagining to enlarge 26mp to 42mp, hehe), not even close.

No, because I've upgraded to A7RIV, sold the lens, and packed up the X100V for sale.

So you never took photos from your lovely X100V? Nothing can share to support your claim that its built-in lens is 'shaper' than FE 35/2.8 ZA? Making claim is easy and free but much harder to support your claim with tangible photos, that I never lack of

However Fuji's party trick filter array makes the sharpness not great at the sensor level, on top of the reduced sensor size and pixel count. So if you want an f/8 shootout the Sony should win. But wide open, you might find the fuji winning.

Oh, now having an excuse You really cannot deny sensor size factor that FF sensor is much bigger than APS-C. So frequently even a theoretically inferior FF lens on FF sensor is still sharper than a 'superior' APS-C lens on APS-C sensor. That's call 'magnification' factor, the same as digital cropping.

what excuse? when did I deny anything? You sound like you're butt hurt, just chill man, I shoot Sony.

You fail to understand crop factor. Smaller sensor, larger penalty in IQ. You need to understand what is 'magnification' or 'enlargement' factor. Otherwise as I said my 48mp cellphone camera is much 'sharper' than your pity 26mp X100V

Here is FE 35/2.8 ZA @f2.8 wide open on A7r II, full size. Can you post X100V @f2.0 wide open (that is eq to FF @f3.0) at 26mp full size?

Err it's equivalent to f/2.8

Do a simple math, 2.0x1.5=3 not 2.8

As I said this lens is not among the sharpest prime lenses below 50mm FL but still sharper than APS-C ff eq 35mm AOV lenses because of much larger FF sensor that enlarged pixels much less. I replaced the lens with Loxia 35/2.0 that in turn replaced by Voigtlander FE 40/1.2 Nokton, not only much faster in aperture but even sharper with fantastic sunstar.

Looks like you have a particular love for unsharp lenses...

Gee, you have no ideas. But still as I saId theoretical 'inferior' lens on FF sensor is still sharper than 'superior' lens on APS-C sensor as an entire system. DXO lens+sensor tests proved this very well. Aha, magnification factor, remember that.

Guess you have no idea what you are talking about

Voigtlander FE 40/1.2 Nokton @f1.2 wide open on 61mp A7r IV, full size

Voigtlander FE 40/1.2 Nokton @f1.2 wide open on 61mp A7r IV, full size

Do you have such FF f1.2 Fuji lenses, that would eq to F0.8 on APS-C? LOL How sharp of the lens even @f1.2 wide open in focus area, the other areas are out of focus plane.

BTW, I do have some even sharper prime lenses - Voigtlander FE 21/1.4 Nokton, Voigtlander FE 65/2.0 APO-Lanthar, Loxia 85/2.4 and Sony 135/1.8 GM, razor sharp. I am sure Sigma FE 35/1.2 Art will be sharper than this CV 40/1.2 Nokon @1.2 but too big/heavy to carry into trips. Then CV 40/1.2 has more pleasing sunstar that doesn't even need to stop down much and after stop down in landscape, the sharpness is very close and not that noticeable. In addition I prefer 40mm over 35mm FL in landscape/cityscape.

Here are 3 more real-world samples from this FE 35/2.8 ZA. Sure in landscape/cityscape you stop down usually. Show us your stop-down full size samples from X100V?

Saying a lens is sharp stopped down is like saying a car is fast and performant in school zones.

I posted FE 35/2.8 ZA @f2.8 wide open in 42mp full size above that is still pretty sharp. Where are your X100V @f2.0 wide open at 26mp?

As I said talking is easy and free, but please backup your claim with substances - photos.

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