2ndact scene1 wrote:
nnowak wrote:
MAC wrote:
nnowak wrote:
Craig Smith wrote:
Start with the glass and work your way back.
II recently purchased an RP, matched with the RF 24-105 F4 L, for use as my main stills camera. Nothing in the M system can match the quality of this RF standard zoom lens.
My M6 MkII, matched with the EF-M 11-22, will now become a backup used primarily for 4k video. Nothing in the R system can match the price of this M wide angle zoom lens.
Nothing can match it right now. That will likely be changing soon. There is a RF 18-45mm wide angle zoom coming soon
hmm, that RF 18 - 45 might have my name on it
18-45mm does not sound like the most exciting focal range, but I am really curious to see what Canon pulls off with this lens. If it is f/5.6-8, it should be similar in size and weight to the EF-M 11-22mm. If it is f/4-5.6, it could serve double duty as a RF mount crop sensor kit lens. Canon could build a compact, crop sensor, RF mount mount camera and package it with the 18-45mm lens. Later on, if you wanted to upgrade to full frame, you could keep the 18-45mm and use it as your wide angle zoom alongside one of the 24-105mm zooms.
and it will likely be sized and priced similar to the 11-22mm.
Camera bodies come and go, glass can last forever.
I had not heard about the possible 18-45mm but it might be the first RF lens I would buy for my RP. There's a long thread in one of the other Canon firms (R forum I think) about the old 17-40 L f4 where I think the consensus is that it is a very convenient, modest sized, not too heavy, budget friendly, wide angle zoom that also ventures into normal territory with that 40mm long end. But IQ is not equal to modern L glass, especially the 16-35 f4, especially in the corners.
A slightly slower 18-45mm with modern optics and hopefully, IS could be very attractive if they can keep the weight down to 500- 600 grams or less and it is priced competitively.
As to RP vs. M6, if you have patience, go back to that long forum discussion on the same subject about 6 or 8 weeks ago.
Wasn’t it about EOS R and M6?
My takeaway is that 1) I am warming up to the RP the more I use it 2) I have always been put off by the accessory EVF on the M6 (though I did learn in that thread that the extra elevation of the EVF above the lcd reduces accidental movement of the focus point when your nose comes into contact with the touchscreen - pretty much the only argument in its favor IMHO), 3) the lens options are much broader on the R line than the M line and 4) I am comfortable with the various things the RP cannot do (sports etc) and the features it doesn't have (various things they could use the electronic shutter for but don't). And 32MP is not a priority for me - but there again I have never experienced it. What I am happiest about is the ability to adapt so many different vintage lense mounts and the ability to focus manual lenses so easily using focus peaking. I suspect the M6 mk II can do the same thing but I prefer using vintage 35mm lenses on a full frame sensor. I am sure others may prefer to crop vintage lenses by using an M6 to get rid of dodgy corners but I prefer using the whole lens.
One main thing I really wish the RP had is the flip up/down lcd the M6 has. I hate the rotating flip out screen on the RP and most other cameras these days - but video rules, so not much we can do about it.
Actually I like it more than the other implementation.
Bottom line - I am happy with my choice but there is a lot to like on both cameras. But I think you have been around long enough to get a feel for whose experience and preferences are the best fit for you.