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RP or M6 mk II

Started Sep 27, 2020 | Discussions thread
nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,070
Re: RP or M6 mk II

unhappymeal wrote:

nnowak wrote:

unhappymeal wrote:

TheDigitalDonbavand wrote:

I like to stick with Canon. Really wish there were a few more native lenses like a 16 1.4.

The Sigma lenses are native,

They are not "native". Just like all other Canon mount Sigma lenses, the mount and communication protocol have been reverse engineered. Sigma may have done a very good job reverse engineering the AF protocols, but they are definitely not "native". A future M system body could easily "break" compatibility with Sigma EF-M lenses and force a firmware update.

The only Sigma lenses with truly "native" protocols are those produced for the open m4/3 and Sony E mounts.

therefore you do have access to a native 16 f/1.4. Just because you refuse to acknowledge third party manufacturers, doesn't mean they don't exist. I prefer to evaluate lenses on their own merit, independent of who manufactures them.

The Tamron EF-M mount 18-200mm lens has required multiple firmware updates to maintain compatibility with newer M bodies. First the M3 broke compatibility, and then the M5/M6 broke it again. I can't remember, but there may have been a third body that broke compatibility.

I don't care of it's Panasonic or Olympus (or someone else) who is manufacturing my lens for m4/3. I have the Viltrox X 85 f/1.8 because it's better than the Fujinon 85 f/2.

Fuji does not have a 85mm f/2, so I guess the Viltrox would be better if you are comparing to a lens that does not exist.

I have a Sigma zoom for my Pentax KP because the Pentax lens (16-50 f/2.8 SDM) is (comparatively) hot garbage. Blind brand allegiance is doing you, the consumer, no favours.

The Pentax 16-50mm f/2.8 is a repackaged Tokina 16-50mm f/2.8. That "hot garbage" is a third party design.

Always the pendant. The Sigmas are functionally native at this point in time.

Until they are not. Tamron's sole EF-M lens seems to get broken every time Canon releases a new DIGIC. Sigma EF-M mount lenses launched the same time as DIGIC 8 and have yet to face the potential incompatibilities of a new DIGIC. Given the routine issues Sigma has with their Canon DSLR lenses, it is only a matter of time before something goes awry with the EF-M versions.

As for the Viltrox vs Fuji comparison, it's clearly a typo and I meant to write 90 mm, but I guess being disingenuous so you can win some imaginary internet argument makes you happy.

Your entire statement about the Viltrox lens was nonsense. The Viltrox 85mm f/1.8 may be less expensive than the Fuji 90mm f/2.0, but that is the only advantage. I'll quote OpticalLimits from their review of the Viltrox 85mm "the already mentioned Fujinon XF 90mm f/2 LM R WR - which is the best lens in this class by some margin"

I won't touch the Pentax argument as it's clear you are so dead set on being technically correct that you are missing the spirit of the discussion.

Is "spirit" your euphemism for misleading?

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