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R6 observations & test shots (PICS)

Started Aug 30, 2020 | Discussions thread
Marco Nero
OP Marco Nero Veteran Member • Posts: 7,582
To: Eddie Rizk

Eddie Rizk wrote:

Marco Nero wrote:
I'll get around to doing one of those later after some other tests. I'm simply passing on my first impressions on the R6 camera. To sum it up: I like it. .

Your opinion counts for a lot, in my book.

Thank you.  I prefer to review cameras from a 'user perspective' and to try to describe the experience rather than get embedded in technical details that might not be of relevance.  Comparisons can help others to decide if they might like or dislike something. Talking about how cameras compare to one another is only useful if someone else is familiar with the comparison model.  I'd prefer to describe how a camera feels and whether the design or menu is economical to the user. Incidentally, when I first took the R6 outside to try, it reminded me of apiece of IKEA furniture that had been tightly assembled.  Everything feels solid to the touch.  The only weak point is probably where the LCD is hinged to the body.  Most other non-DSLR cameras feel like a piece of furniture that was hasn't had all the Allen Screws tightened and they rattle or handle quite differently.  The R6 fits into the hand well and feels balanced. The deeper body dimensions (presumably to house the IBIS mechanism) gives the camera a heftier feel.  I certainly appreciate the Control Dial although the Top-LCD from the R cameras (and the R5) look visually appealing.  The Control Dial on the R6 is decisive when you change settings.  It's firm and less prone to critical damage like the Top-LCD is.

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Using the EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM lens (via the control-ring lens adapter for RF to EF lenses), I literally forgot I wasn't using a full-frame DSLR. The speed and responsiveness were great and there was no lag in operation while shooting.

Does that mean that High Speed Display works with burst shooting with EF lenses on R6?

Are you referring to the 'Display Performance' or the 'High Speed Display' (both of which seem to work fine with the EF lens that I was using)?  I thought there was a way to change the refresh rate of the EVF but I can't seem to find that option now.  There's a Power Saving option for the EVF which made little mechanical difference when I used it.  I've left that option set to "Power Saving" instead of "Smooth" (which uses more power).  Either way, I had the EF lens on when using these features and noticed no restrictions.  Let me know if there's something you need to to check.
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From the EOS R6 User Manual re: EF/EF-S lenses supporting 12fps continuous shooting.
I was shooting in bright daylight/sunlight and switched repeatedly between the EVF and the LCD screen and at no point do I recall noting any lag whatsoever.  There's an extremely brief blackout but it's not different to the effect of a DSLR mirror flipping up.  It's literally that brief.  And I didn't notice a flicker as the shutter is held down either.  Just that initial first shot seems to trigger a slight flicker/blackout for a fraction of a second.  Since I had the Mechanical Shutter active (it ships with the Electronic 1st Curtain shutter active), I was interested to see what the performance was with H burst mode on.  It was VERY responsive and the shutter was still incredibly quiet in Mechanical Shutter mode.    It's almost a "whisper" as it fires. Sounds "classier" than a lot of other cameras.  I had to check to see if I was using the Electronic Shutter because it's so quiet.

* All images shot in JPEG (I don't shoot RAW).

Interesting. I have never shot a JPEG since buying my first RAW capable camera. That said, I thought about going to JPEGS when I got the R, my first camera with EVF, because of the preview. Old habits die hard.

They certainly do.  I'm going to have to convince myself to try to sample from RAW shots from this sensor.  I have no doubt it will perform very well.  The DiGiC X processor does a good job of rendering JPEGS so far.  I might need to update some of my software to run the new Canon RAW file.

How often do you have to adjust white balance?

In the last two days with the R6 I just left it in AUTO WB mode.  I didn't need to adjust the WB at all with the camera whilst shooting over the last two days.  If the weather was overcast, I might have had a reason to change it.  Overall, it adapted to sunlight, lowlight, incandescent light, candle light and several LED light sources without a need to change the White Balance at all.   That's probably ideal although I rarely bother changing the WB on my other cameras either.  Shooting a lot of greenery or under overcast conditions will sometimes prompt me to change the WB.  I guess I could have selected "Daylight/Sunlight" from the WB options for some of what I was shooting yesterday.  Either way, the R6 did a respectable job with AWB.  I did edit an image of some prawns on a plate by reducing the yellow and increasing the blue (for the white ceramic plate) when editing in Lightroom.

Do you still edit your pictures much or use them directly as they are?

I tend to tweak most image slightly in Lightroom - and as long as I'm not saving "copies of copies" then there should be no image quality loss beyond the original clean JPEG file that was downloaded ... but I noticed that the JPEGs from the R6 didn't require much work (if any) at all.  Normally I'd lift the shadows to reveal a little detail in some shots... but that wasn't necessary with any of the images I took with the R6. The same applies to Noise Reduction as well.  I found one image that I was considering applying Noise Reduction to and when I looked at the ISO settings in the EXIF information I noticed that it was taken at ISO 5000 (which was a surprise).  I hadn't even noticed that I was shooting with too-high a shutter speed, hence the high ISO for that shot.  There were only two shots out of around 1,000 that I considered applying NR to.  No sharpening was needed since the camera's DiGiC X chip handled that.  So overall, there wasn't much for me to do other than resize.  None of the highlights were overly exposed and the contrast from this sensor and both lenses was fine.
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I will almost certainly shoot some JPEG+RAW images with the R6 and I expect the results to be good from this sensor.  If I go up to the mountains I'll probably take some RAW shots just to see what details I can extract later.  This is a very likeable sensor and I can see why it was selected for the 1DX III.

Thank you for all of your posts. I look at every one I see.

Your words are always enlightening, and your pictures are a joy to look at.

I'm just happy to share what I experience.  The good folks here on the forums have been incredibly helpful to me in the past and the individual experiences of others here have influenced some of my own purchasing decisions in the past.  Usually I'll made a decision based on the specs offered by the manufacturer but it's the experiences of others that tells you if you're going to like or dislike something after you buy it.  I do feel that Canon are pushing prices up with their new models (cameras, batteries, lenses, accessories etc).  As sales for camera drop with the improvements offered in Smart Phone camera tech, it's probably necessary for these camera companies to push up prices to cover losses.  At least we're getting "some bang for our bucks" with the latest installments.

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Marco Nero.

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