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Removing R5 internal battery resets overheat timer
Started Aug 20, 2020
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Re: Removing R5 internal battery resets overheat timer
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Aug 21, 2020
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SHood wrote:
Canon needs to come clean on this as removing the internal battery allowed user to do full 8k time limit again and measure temperature did not increase much. There is definitely a timer for internal recording. Detailed testing was done by chinese user as linked in article below.
So the facts we have:
Canon has set a timer in EPROM. Where else would they write it? That was pretty obvious when we realized there was a software timer. We already knew taking out the internal battery (there are some other methods) erases EPROM.
Everyone's having a lot of conspiracy theory fun, but nobody has come up with a good why.
CanAnon is sure it's a plot to make buyers of $4,000 small cameras upgrade to $20,000 cameras they are never going to buy. Not saying it's not possible, just don't see it as the fastest horse.
Those heat measurements taken in an opened camera are pretty crude. There is about zero correlation between how heat builds up in a camera with the back off and a closed, pretty well insulated camera. If someone leaves a half dozen tiny heat sensors in a closed camera I'd be more impressed with the data, but nobody's doing that.
Nobody has discovered Canon's internal heat sensors and I'll bet there is a single one. (I've asked, I got no answer.) I suspect some engineers, perhaps as release approached, got paranoid about heat eating up their cameras. They'd rather err way on the side of caution than be facing a dozen 'R5s just die spontaneously in 6 months' threads in 6 months. Nobody is going to send their camera in to service saying "I run it up to heat cut off 3 times a day and it suddenly died". It's going to be 'I was minding my own business, taking a few shots here and there, when the camera just died.'
I'm pretty sure that there is some work going on about how much they can safely loosen tolerances and this will happen eventually. It's pretty obvious the algorithm they're using is pretty crude and can be refined.
In the meantime, I'm waiting patiently for someone to explain to me why 8k cinema cameras have heat sinks that weigh as much as the R5, internal fans, and big ports to circulate air, but the R5 should work for just as long without any of that stuff.
Full disclosure: I do not personally own a Canon camera, although I am considering buying an R5. Also I shoot almost no video, and can't imagine I'll ever shoot 8k.
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