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jonpais
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Re: Agree, MAJOR 8K benefits exceed hype

Willow w wrote:

I completely agree. Resolution is the least of the major benefits of 8K, unless you are watching on that new Samsung or Sony 8K TV.

Smoother edges, colors and so much more improve the picture quality. But even those are the biggest benefits. The flexibility of 8K over lower resolution during editing make it far superior.

If you've ever tried editing an 8K project, you'd realize how foolish that statement is. The Peru video shot in 8K by mystery box on YT shared by another reader required over 36TB of storage, which meant lugging around as many as eight drives on location to remote areas and the time-consuming chore of backing up all that footage at the end of each day alone. It's a logistical nightmare.

Most in the forum do not have the storage space, computer power, or even the dedicated hardware decoder required to edit 8K. Apart from YouTube, there is no 8K content. Many have complained of the difficulty playing 8K YouTube, either because of their computer or slow internet. Streaming giant Netflix has expressed no interest in 8K and advertising agencies prefer 1080p because it streams more smoothly. If content is difficult to watch, consumers will skip it. Costs of media and storage, along with longer processing times and huge file sizes means filmmakers have to pass those costs along to the client, making them less competitive. All that, and there is not yet a mirrorless camera on the market that can shoot 8K commercially.

8K content is indistinguishable from 4K. I already posted an example proving that the number of Ks is not the deciding factor in image quality. And while most films on Netflix are shot with RED cameras, it’s impossible for any viewer to say with any certainty which incredible series were shot in 8K and which were not. The same cannot be said of HDR, which unsurprisingly few in the forums either understand or care about, but which is available to anyone with even an EOS R camera, and which requires no special hardware, no 8K television, no CFExpress cards, no vast amounts of storage and no extra computer processing power! And best of all, no overheating! Anyone viewing an HDR picture from ten feet away instantly recognizes the astounding improvement in image quality.

HDR contributes incomparably more to image quality than 8K. Rec. 709 covers 40% less of the CIE 1931 color space than Rec. 2020 and lops off as many as nine stops of the sensor’s dynamic range! But no one is interested because they’ve been fooled by marketing hype. Realistically, most consumer HDR televisions are able to display ten stops of DR. Those extra four stops of brightness have been scientifically proven to be more appreciable than say the difference between 4:2:2 color and 4:4:4!

Like we discussed before not many realize that many new TV shows like Apple TV's "The Morning Show" are shot in 8K. They are not fancy action or special effects shows that need the highest resolution to wow the audience. But people making movies, TV shows and video these days know acquiring in 8K is far superior that 4K, and means the resulting video (due to many many factors already discussed) will be better than if only a 4K camera were used.

I think we've beaten this topic to death. We both agree 6K and 8K acquisition is preferable to only 4K acquisition. And while you may not see a resolution difference, we all know the resulting video will be superior is many ways.

Like you said, 8K is the new Standard.

I never said anything of the sort. Even if manufacturers all made 12K cameras, it’s never going to be the standard, whatever that means. Until Netflix, studios, movie theaters, advertisers, clients and filmmakers think it's viable, 8K will remain a novelty. And that is not going to happen in the next decade.

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