Manufacturer with intuitive menus?

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saltydogstudios
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Re: Not Nikon or Canon

Green Lens Creations wrote:

saltydogstudios wrote:

Green Lens Creations wrote:

zxaar wrote:

  1. pforsell wrote:

tbcass wrote:

pforsell wrote:

rb61 wrote:

Is there one camera manufacturer that stands out as a leader when it comes to intuitive menus?

Please ignore, if possible, stratospheric priced cameras.

Thanks

Sony is the worst imaginable. They couldn't make a bigger mess even if they tried.

Really? Ten why do I like the Sony menus? Could it be that they aren't really as bad as you say and it's merely your opinion. Have you ever even owned one of the newer Sonys or used one for an extended length of time with an open mind? I bet not. There's a lot of Sony hate out there and the Sony haters love to criticize the menu system when they really know nothing about it.

Does A7M2 or A7RM2 count?

May be you have a special camera. My A7r menu is not random. Pretty much make sense to me.

Don't see them changing so much from m1 to m2 for you to have random menu.

The order of things in the menus is worse than random, imho. Settings that go conceptually together are spattered around in different pages. It would require considerable work and time to make them any worse, if at all possible.

Sony makes great cameras, especially for video. The A7R series is extremely powerful and capable, and g-master glass is excellent. I do think however the design of the cameras will ultimately come back to haunt them in the future

Sony was first with a truly capable mirrorless camera on the market when people were still skeptical. This allowed them to eat up a lot of the quick switchers and get a head start in the industry. While it’s definitely a camera I wouldn’t mind having, it’s not a design I would trust on professional jobs or in situations where settings need to be adjusted often. Yes, anyone can get used to anything, but I think there are better options

I bought the Sony A7 as an inexpensive way to get full frame sensors behind my vintage lenses.

I don't own any Sony lenses - it's just where I park my vintage lenses.

But I'm not everyone.

BUT - There's an entire generation of photographers who see Sony as the only good full frame option. The Sony A7 came out in 2013.

2013. (sorry for the US centric bent on events, this is just what I get when I google "2013 year in review")

  • Barack Obama is inaugurated for a second term.
  • The Boston Marathon Bombings
  • The Edward Snowden revelations

The A7 would have been ridiculed today. I own it - I like it. It has one card slot. The menus are - whatever. But it was a full frame camera mirrorless in 2013.

Sony wasn't just "first with a truly capable mirrorless camera on the market"

Sony was DVD when the rest of the world was watching watching 4:3 broadcast television.

I also think when Nikon and Canon begin releasing their next mirrorless bodies, it will be a game changer and disrupt the concept that Sony is the king of mirrorless. They may be the first to the market, but we are still early on in the development of mirrorless systems and there is still a ton of market share to fight for, especially considering one of the biggest competitors to the A7RIII & IV is the D850, and once there is a comparable mirrorless body to prevent people from having to choose Nikon or Sony based on DSLR vs Mirrorless options, it will tilt the scales a bit.

A "game changer" changes the game.

Joining a category 7 years later is not game changing.

DSLR’s sales have been dropping, but while mirrorless sales have remained steadier they have not increased. This shows there are still a ton of people out there still waiting to see what Nikon and Canon come out with and for the technology to mature more before they make a switch. I still personally prefer an optical viewfinder but that’s just me

At the end of the day find the camera that feels the best in your hands and/or the company you trust the most and stick with them. If you really know what you’re doing and understand the strengths and limitations of your gear, the photos/videos will come out great regardless of what it was shot on

Sony is the only good full frame option...?
Come on now. That’s just silly...

Ah, sorry I meant full frame *mirrorless* - if you see the text I highlighted that's just below what I said, I was responding to someone who said Canon and Nikon releasing mirrorless cameras was "game changing"

There is also a whole generation of people who are flat earthers.

There will be people who think the gear makes the photographer and those who think the other way around. But I tend to find a lot of Sony users fiercely defensive and find any little reason to believe their camera is “better” than everyone else’s. I think partly because going with a brand like that totally limits you to mirrorless and they don’t want to admit that is not necessarily the best thing. However if you are new to ILC and don’t own a system, or don’t shoot profesional jobs, that might not matter. The truth is there is no “best” camera. Everyone has different needs and different preferences and to say that Sony cameras are simply the best at everything is just a falsehood

As for what Sony did for DVD, that’s great... It’s just like what Nikon and Canon did for cameras since the 60s to allow Sony to enter the field with things like autofocus and quality lenses... Innovation is inevitable, and anyone can change the game at any time. These companies will push out better and better cameras and whatever brand works for you is the best brand

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