COVID-19 Discussion Thread #4

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Another reason to shave
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Antioch wrote:

HRC2016 wrote:

Antioch wrote:

HRC2016 wrote:

I wonder if people who are wearing masks while out and about are doing it so that no one tries to speak with them.

There's a lot of information out there that explains wearing a regular surgical-type (non N95) mask does not protect you from coronavirus.

I read some website/blog where a photographer was talking about wearing an N95 when he was out and about. Not smart.

For some reason, the far east folks, were wearing masks even before this pandemic. They are used to it, and it seems, the far east the results seem better. It was announced that S. Korea, China, Taiwan, Singapore had it under control and all these countries, wear masks most of the time, as compared to us. Even now, I have seen only 2 wearing masks, in the past 2 months here.

The problem is the public is not trained in the proper fitting of masks, handling of masks, disposal of masks. The far east countries who wear the masks, probably have years of usage under their belt and it works for them, as their results show.

You can pick up the mask with contaminated hands.
You can contaminate the mask itself when you unpack it.
You have to dispose of the mask after 3 to 6 hours of use.
How do you dispose of the contaminated mask without contaminating yourself and thus others.
Your hands can be contaminated.
Your clothes/hair can be contaminated.
Publically available Masks cannot protect you against airborne pathogens.
Viruses are about 2 Nanometers.

Viruses are not airborne.

N95 masks may not work for common folks, as they have to be fitted properly.

Surgical masks stop everything except airborne pathogens, when used by Medical persons.

N95 Respirators with faceplate stop everything including airborne pathogens.
(There are two type Insulating and Filtering). This item is not available
to the Public, and used by Medical Personnel. Further they have to be
fitted, and have to be disposed after a few hours.

I have seen a lot of pictures and people in Asian countries wearing surgical masks, but I've never seen anyone wearing an N95! They are usually wearing plain surgical-type face masks. Those masks are not the reason for those countries successes in curbing this pandemic. There are many variables.

I agree, N95 require training to put on and use. At this time there is no reason for the public to wear n95 for protection - it just diverts those masks from health care professionals who need them.

Viruses can become airborne through sneezes, coughs and speaking. If Corona viruses did not become airborne then there wouldn't be a social distancing component as part of protective measures.

I agree viruses can become airborne through sneezes etc, and can be made airborne by other means as well. My point, which obviously I did not clearly elaborate, if that Viruses are generally in a natural state not Airborne pathogens. If it were, entire planet will be effected.

Due to the incorrect use of the mask, you can still get the virus, mostly by contact from hands, which then spreads it to the mask, clothes, hair, nostrils even after using a mask. After removing the mask, you still have to clean your hands, your clothes, and have shower and sterilize your shoes as well. So if all this was not done, you are at risk.

So, that being the case, they would rightfully say, that the mask does not work, even though the problem was the other issues.

By the way, originally, the mask was introduced for Construction workers and for the medical community and later hazmat and space as well.

Thanks for clarifying. We seem to be on the same page.

Oh yea, the virus is airborne from a sneeze then lands on some surface, which is why frequently touched surfaces (light switches, door knobs, etc.) need to be cleaned.

There are hundreds of ways to use an N95 incorrectly. You really do need to know what  your doing, which excludes most of the public.

Another important point: facial hair.

It can interfere with N95 fit.

Also, facial hair may be able to retain the virus on your face! Then you stroke your beard and touch your eyes ...

Another reason to shave your face during flu season!

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