No wonder Sony did not bother...

Started Feb 12, 2020 | Discussions thread
HFLM Senior Member • Posts: 1,976
Re: No wonder Sony did not bother...

Lawn Lends wrote:

ilumo wrote:

Jonneymendoza2 wrote:

As in, bothered to produce a bigger upgrade spec on the A9mk2!!

BOth the D6/1dx3 are a let down spec-wise!

I cant blame sony for just doing small updates on it as they probably knew the 1x3/d6 would barely be a upgrade to the previous version of those cameras(which the original A9 already blew away)

And this is why competition matters. We should all want the other team to do well or you just stagnate. I’m excited to see what the R5 brings to the table. Even though I have a lowly a7r4 (compared to r5 specs)

I am excited too. While the specs look great, pricing is the joker in the deck. Nobody knows (maybe even Canon doesn't know) what the initial R5 price will be:

  • If it comes in around $3,500, it will do very very well,
  • between $3,500 and $4,000, it will still do well, unless Sony drops the price of the A7R4 to around $3,000, then it will do okay,
  • over $4,000 it will do okay as long as that price is lowered to around $3,500 around black Friday/Christmas, after the initial adopters are soaked, and, once again as long as Sony doesn't undercut it by cutting the A7R4 to around $3k.

I just need to understand the reasoning. What is the probability for Canon to introduce their flagship model 1dxiii and immediately thereafter introduce a camera which beats it in specs and price easily? I don't think that to happen. I don't think Canon to have a stacked sensor either, so very likely the R5 will come with a lot of footnotes bringing the hype down to sure footage. Fully silent no-black-out shutter + 20fps with CAF and exposure is unlikely in my opinion, for example.


I can easily imagine the R5 to compete with the A7iii and likes and provide a very nice upgrade to the EOS R. I can easily imaging the wedding photographers like me being convinced to go with this model. For this it doesn't need to be on a 1dxiii level AF-wise, it just needs to top the 5div clearly (which shouldn't be that difficult, I was disappointed with the 5div, a reason my wife's business switched to Sony). Cameras are all very good nowadays, so the R5, in my opinion, won't break records but will provide Canon users with an excellent model for all-purpose shooting at a similar price to the RIV or 5div at introduction.

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