EM-1 Miii: Fairly disappointed, but might still give it a try

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Re: EM-1 Miii: Fairly disappointed, but might still give it a try

roberthd12 wrote:

mrwho27 wrote:

Hi all,
since 2008 I am shooting with my beloved Nikon D90. Though the camera was true revolution when it came out (and still is to some extend), I have been looking for a significant update over the last years.
In 2015 I tried the Olympus EM-1 Mi. I fell in love with the ergonomics and features but was very disappointed with the image quality (since it fell behind the much older Nikon D90). Then came the EM-1 Mii. At the time I just did not have funds to make a major system switch and just admired the camera from afar.
Then at the end of last year and some pretty incredible prices for the Sony A7r IV, I thought I had finally found a camera to upgrade to. Until I held the camera in store. WHAT HORRIBLE ERGONOMICS!!!
When we first heard rumors about an upcoming EM-1 Miii, I got super excited and thought that THIS IS IT!
Until the specs of the camera became clearer.. I have to say I am quite disappointed that they went with the same old sensor (image processor does not seem to provide any gains either) the same EVF and also did (again) not get close to Sony's AF.
Since a camera is more than its individual specs, I probably will still rent one and compare it against the Sony A7r IV to see what is more important to me:
Absolute Picture Quality or portability and ergonomics.
I also have to say, that this product release by Olympus definitely supports the naysayers that claim that Olympus is shutting down its camera business...

I love Oly, but have sold most of my Oly stuff and moved to Fuji––and am happy. While Oly's IBIS is the best in the business, the speed and pace of technology means that the lack of any significant Oly sensor advancement means they're falling behind. How does the v.3 of the E-M1 bring new users to the fold? Otherwise, the audience for Oly is shrinking, and that does not bode well for the long term. It's a great system, but there's nothing there that appeals to sales beyond the Oly faithful.

There are no Olympus sensors or Fuji sensors to advance, there are Sony sensors which are used by both.  The fact that Sony used their 2016 APS sensor in their new A6XXX cameras should indicate the amount of sensor "advancement" that has occurred in the last 4 years.  That is also the year the Olympus sensor was used in the E-M1.2.

Fuji did get a new APS sensor from Sony for the X-T3 which enabled them to increase readout speed to 1/40, but it actually is not quite as good at higher ISOs as their old sensor.  The Olympus sensor has a faster 1/60 readout for fewer rolling shutter artefacts.

Fuji and other APS sensor cameras were about 2/3 -1 stop better than mFTs cameras 10 years, are about the same now and will be about 2/3 - 1 stop better than mFTs in 10 years (if they all survive).

FF cameras were, are, will be about 1 stop better than APS cameras and about 2 stops better than mFTs cameras as long as they all survive (and few probably will).

It hasn't changed, it is simply a function of sensor size, any advances in sensors (which basically hasn't occurred in the last 6-8 years) will be true of all the survivors.

Pick the system where both the sensor and the lenses best meets your requirements.

If you want to change the relative size of the difference in performance, you must choose lenses with wider apertures for the smaller sensors, but that will remove weight the advantages.

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