DPReview.com is closing April 10th - Find out more

Lack of up to date pancakes in M43?

Started Feb 9, 2020 | Discussions thread
morinor Senior Member • Posts: 1,073
Re: Lack of up to date pancakes in M43?

This December I was looking for a camera as small to fit into a coat pocket in order to have a good camera to replace my smartphone camera. The most obvious camera that I looked were Panasonic GX800, GX80, GX9 and Olympus E-PL9. An Olympus M10 II or III was a close candidate if it didn't had that bump due to the EVF.

I had considered other rangefinder cameras like the Fuji X-A5 or Canon M100 but they missed one important point: they didn't had a collapsible zoom lens the same size with a pancake when folded in.

Panasonic 12-32mm f/3.6-5.6 made me select a M4/3 camera in order to feel my need. I have read that Olympus 14-42mm was a mediocre lens so that was also a decisive factor to not choose the Olympus way although that E-PL9 camera checked a lot of boxes. The 12-32mm it is the main kit lens brought out on Panasonic cameras so it make sense in order to save money. I really wanted to had a similar option with a Fuji or a Canon camera.

After that I looked also what other pancake choices I had. 14mm at f/2.5 doesn't seem a good option and it doesn't sound more usable than the 12-32mm. The other options that I saw were also 15mm f/1.7 and 20mm f/1.7. Although the 15mm is a good option with the option to use the aperture ring, it is much more expensive and it is not greater regarding IQ. I have seen the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 but it is not as small as I want although it is relatively small compared with other prime lenses.

I have read that 20mm is slow and noisier, but I think that will be my option. I am happy that I read that with cameras with DFD (I have chosen GX80 at the end) the focus speed has been improved. AF noise still will not be fixed, but maybe I can avoid using it if I have to shoot video. It is a nice focal length with nice specifications and I really wished to had an update to address those two issues.

I am also looking on 7artisan 35mm f/1.2. Although it is not at any way a sharp lens and a MF, it is not big, it has wide aperture and can produce some different kind of photos. Its price is something also something to make the step and experiment with it.

All that from a guy that hates the idea of pancakes attached on a FF body.

 morinor's gear list:morinor's gear list
Nikon D750 Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX85 Nikon 85mm F1.8G Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM Art Nikon AF-S Nikkor 20mm f/1.8G ED +5 more
Post (hide subjects) Posted by
(unknown member)
(unknown member)
(unknown member)
(unknown member)
Keyboard shortcuts:
FForum PPrevious NNext WNext unread UUpvote SSubscribe RReply QQuote BBookmark MMy threads
Color scheme? Blue / Yellow