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Which flash system to sue?
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Hi!
What kind of results do you expect? What kind of product photography (jewellery, cars...)?
There are so many different ways inside the types of you describe. Is some style, single flashgun might be enough. Others, on the other hand, may require more and different gear. If you ask me, I do fine with my ex-430iii, but I do rather small amount of my photos with it. My photography don't need much.
I think here:
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63503159 was just while ago pretty good question, answers/suggestions and results.
A s l a
What kind of results do you expect? What kind of product photography (jewellery, cars...)?
There are so many different ways inside the types of you describe. Is some style, single flashgun might be enough. Others, on the other hand, may require more and different gear. If you ask me, I do fine with my ex-430iii, but I do rather small amount of my photos with it. My photography don't need much.
I think here:
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63503159 was just while ago pretty good question, answers/suggestions and results.
A s l a
I would like to shot some table top projects, modell cars, food, something like that.
I'm searching for a setup for 1 master flash and 2 additional slaves, so that I can combine 3 flashes together and positioning them as I want.
R2D2
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Darn near any flash (system) will work for you. Go with radios so you can position all threee independently. Shoot using manual flash power on all of them.
But really, what’ll be most important is the light modifiers you’ll be using (I like soft boxes for still lifes). Go as big as is practical.
I might make an alternative suggestion tho. Go with constant illumination (“hot lights”) for this kind of stuff. I like LEDs. It’ll make light placement a snap.
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I would suggest that if you want a multi-flash system with full wireless triggering (not optical triggers), perhaps look at Godox.
I have just ordered a Godox TT685-C and X2T-C wireless transmitter for use with (mainly) my 6D ii, but I have a M5 as well. I also have an old 430 EX (original), but it has lost some functionality as it is not fully compatible with the newer bodies.
Godox is FAR cheaper than Canon, and by all accounts works pretty well, and has a particularly good wireless triggering system.
My flash and trigger together are costing me around US$130 - a Canon 600 EX RT plus trigger would probably be at least 4 times that. You could probably get three TT 685-C speedlights for around $250 in the US.
Colin
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I totally agree the system can grow with the user it all melds together flawlessly not to mention it very competitive price point.
I have three Flashpoint V860II flashes + Flashpoint R2 TTL 2.4G Wireless Transmitter which I used on and off my Canon 80D. I tried using them on the M50 but their bulk felt awkward and out of balance on top of the M50. I still have them and use them off camera. I think you may find the same problem with the TT685.
I purchased a single TT 350C to use on top of the M50. I use it primarily for fill and bounce flash, I have no regrets. I purchased it for nearly half the price of a new TT 350C . The benefit of the Godox/Flashpoint system is its compatibility/integration with other lighting in their system.
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If you're mostly into product shooting, strobe may not be the way you have to go. Flashes are more useful if you need more power for lighting ratios or to cover larger subjects (e.g., people). But smaller macro-type shooting, the smaller subject distances mean you can use less powerful lights, and also angular changes sometimes need to be very subtle, so continuous lights, like LED panels, may actually make more sense for this type of shooting.
If, however, you also plan to use flash for things like portraits or events, then speedlights (hotshoe flashes) can serve you really well. But if you want to shoot groups of people, cars, or shoot day for night outside at noon, then maybe bigger studio strobes are called for.
Different tools for different tasks.
As everyone's saying, Godox is pretty good for this. And unless you need light to come from just above your lens, the master unit on your hotshoe doesn't have to be a flash: it can be a radio transmitter.
In the Godox system, the X2T-C, XPro-C and Flashpoint R2 Pro II-C transmitters are probably the preferred units. Get the X2T if you need a hotshoe up top for some reason; get an R2 Pro II if you don't and are in the US and can buy from Adorama; an XPro if you're outside the US.
In addition, the Godox speedlights do have "dumb" S1/S2 optical slave modes in them. So you could trigger them with any pop-up flash burst (vs. "Smart" optical triggering that would require an M5 with master capability in the pop-up). This will be manual-only triggering though, where you have to make any settings changes directly on the off-camera flashes. No TTL, HSS, power control, etc. And, as optical triggering, it would work better in studio conditions vs. outdoors in bright sunlight.
For slave flashes, the TT600 ($60) and TT685-C ($110) are the lowest-cost full-sized speedlights in the system. They may both be top-heavy if you attempt to use them on-camera with a mirrorless body. The TT350-C ($85) is a mini speedlight that balances well on a mirrorless body, but is less powerful and less fully featured than the TT685-C. The TT600 is super-cheap because it's a manual-only flash so all a camera hotshoe can tell it to do is fire. But the built-in radio transceiver means as a radio slave, you can also set its M power level, and use HSS (no TTL, though).
Both the TT350-C and TT685-C could also be on-camera radio transmitter units, too, but their UI and feature set as radio masters is not as good as the dedicated transmitter units.
So, if you also wanted to do on-camera bounce flash as well as off-camera flash, you could get a TT350-C as your on-camera unit and transmitter, with TT600s or TT685s as your off-camera units.
All the Godox TT speedlights also come in "V" models that use li-on battery packs. The packs have roughly 3x the capacity of a set of AAs. They are more expensive, though. TT350 is $85; V350 is $160. TT600 is $60; V850II is $140; TT685 is $110; V860II is $180. The round-headed V1 has no TT counterpart, and it's $260.
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