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50mm 1.2 EF to RF or wait something like 50 1.4/1.8 with IS?
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Franz Kerschbaum
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I guess the RF35/1.8 is the first incarnation of very similar 24, 50, 85 RF lenses.
Great decision by Canon. The building quality is quite good and they look good (also when compared to the RF L lenses I have .. They will have a huge market.
Great decision by Canon. The building quality is quite good and they look good (also when compared to the RF L lenses I have .. They will have a huge market.
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At least the incompatibility between R and M ( and EF-S) allows Canon to bring out a very good f/1.8 or f/1.4 50mm without offering a fantastic portrait option for aps-c cameras. This option does exist anyway today with the sigma 56mm f/1.4.
On the other hand Canon might try to push you to buy an M camera if you want this focal length equivalent (32mm f/1.4) with not bringing out a 50mm for the RF mount being better than the EF 50mm f/1.4 and more affordable than the RF 50mm f/1.2.
After all a smaller 50mm (or 50mm equivalent) is a great walk around lens, and walking around in general is nicer with a more compact camera (M).
Why sell one (RF 50mm) lens if you can sell another (ef-m 32mm) AND a (M) camera?
The hard facts are that the RP needs lenses as well and it is likely would want the sub $600 lenses for those customers. So would we see three tiers of RF lenses? Maybe down the road in the future but I think they will have their hand full just with two tiers.
It took Sony a while but they now have three tiers for some with the GM, G, and regular. The example I see that they have is the FE 50mm f/1.4 ZA (ok no G or GM) that I think of as a GM, the 55 f/1.8 ZA (as a G), and the 50/1.8 or you can get that same when you add in the third party lens partners like Zeiss Batis, Tamron, and Sigma.
It took Sony a while but they now have three tiers for some with the GM, G, and regular. The example I see that they have is the FE 50mm f/1.4 ZA (ok no G or GM) that I think of as a GM, the 55 f/1.8 ZA (as a G), and the 50/1.8 or you can get that same when you add in the third party lens partners like Zeiss Batis, Tamron, and Sigma.
Yes, that is what I would like to see as well. If they come out with "pro" body that justifies purchasing the very high end lenses then I might be willing to spend more. Sony did that with the A7III, A7RIV, A9 (or A9II) IMHO.
This is what we all thought when we saw the EF 24 / 28 / 35 IS USM lenses, and yet nada materialised during the eight following years
.It's quite obvious that at some point Canon will have to release other 50 and 85mm lenses, but it remains to be seen exactly what performance / price / size and weight targets Canon will elect to hit, and they may not equal the 35 RF.
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I love the extra thick red markers! What did you use?I guess the RF35/1.8 is the first incarnation of very similar 24, 50, 85 RF lenses.
Great decision by Canon. The building quality is quite good and they look good (also when compared to the RF L lenses I have .. They will have a huge market.
Yana2
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Sorry for the inconvenience. That was trade-in price.
I sold 3 EF and got 2 RF:
RF 50 trade by EF 50 = 872
USD1615 - 743 = 872
RF 15-35 trade by EF16-35 & EF70-300DO
USD1852 - USD564 = 1288
RF50 : Gray Market
RF15-35 : Official Local warranty
RF50 with $260 different between Gray Market and official but RF15-35 Just $90.
Yana2
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I think so, the 1.8 Series like RF35 is coming!I guess the RF35/1.8 is the first incarnation of very similar 24, 50, 85 RF lenses.
Great decision by Canon. The building quality is quite good and they look good (also when compared to the RF L lenses I have .. They will have a huge market.
And nice RED marking on lens cap!!! :-O
Franz Kerschbaum
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Funny. When I saw your sony comment I almost laughed out load.
You can't place sony (back then) in the same group as canon. Canon is the lens king basically. Look at how fast they have come out with these L lenses. Its been just a year. And when it comes to the 2 FLs that are mainstream (35 and 50) I would say that it is relatively easy for them to do. Especially the 50.
Yes the RP needs lenses too, so to speak, so what? Not everyone even RP users want a $90 nifty fifty. Find if canon produces it, but the choice between a 100 lens and 3000 lens is a little ridiculous.
The current 50 stm is soft wide open, has no IS, experiences focus shift, and is noisy. That is not the kind of trend canon seems to be going for. I get that we don't need a 3 tier lens option for everything. But those those two FLs... why not???
Back to sony... remember the decentered, QC and sample variation issues? It was massive. It is the main reason why I never owned sony glass, only ZA and zeiss lenses, because I was allergic to the notion of returning lenses many times till I get a good copy, and those weren't even GM lenses. Those were expensive regular lenses or G lenses. It was ridiculous. Anyway. I want a good decent 50 that isn't dirt cheap, and is preferably weather sealed. It is arguably the main FL used by many. So why not? At the very lease we need a similar 50 to the RF 35. But since 50s tend to be easier to design and make, I would rather they keep the RF 35 price and put whatever "cost savings" to making the lens better. So whatever $500 will give me for a 50, rather than same quality (IQ as well) and build as the RF 35 for $200
I agree with your point of view on the 50. Nikon's approach to their Z-mount f/1.8 may not have been as sexy as L mount f/1.2 primes but for the average buyer.
no arguments there. Z mount is/was very tempting. But I prefer DPAF, and considering the market I am betting that canon is more secure.
and I am done switching brands (Nikon -> canon -> Sony -> canon)
f1.8 primes for canon is an inevitability. Hope they will get a 50 out in a year or less.
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