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will the g9x iii ever come?

Started Dec 14, 2019 | Questions thread
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Re: will the g9x iii ever come?

MichielBd wrote:

AllFlawed wrote:

MichielBd wrote:

I Bought a G9X II in 2017 when it was released and used it extensively. I think it’s an almost perfect camera (if you look at price, size and weight). I especially like how well thought out the user interface is .

The only thing I really hate about it is sloooooow autofocus in video. It almost takes for ever to focus. So sometimes when you shoot video, the first few seconds are not in focus or focus is never achieved at all (especially when you are moving or when you are filming moving subjects)

Interesting what will happen when Canon get hold of a Sony PDAF sensor. They have not invested much effort over the years in to contrast detect so how they will cope with embedded PDAF when all their expertise is in dual pixel is a mystery. Problems like banding and heaven knows what else will need to be addressed.

Difficult to know how Canon can continue in compacts or what they can bring to new models if they are unable to get their own competitive dual pixel 1" sensor.

I bought the G5X Mk I for its particular merits knowing the focusing was the weak point but the rudimentary focusing modes in Canon compacts must come as a shock to many people nowadays.

In a threat that you started a few weeks ago about PDAF I told you that Canon already have a 1 inch sensor (ok, it only 13,4 Mp) with dual pixel AF in the Canon XA50 video camera so I don’t think they will go for PDAF.

i had a look at that but it is heavy stuff. I seem to recall there was a cheaper 1" video camera but it had a loupe which is not to my liking.

If they could get a compact video camera out with an EVF that would be interesting. 13.4 mp is fine.

But if they do, they probably already have the know how, how to make PDAF work (being the big company that they are) .

Well they have not really managed a competitive contrast detect big company that they are.

I think that not including PDAF or Dual pixel AF into the Power shot range is a well-considered choice of Canon. (If someone of the canon marketing department is listening please correct me if I’m wrong)

But I’m not complaining about the focus speed while photographing because for what I do it’s usually fast enough. I’m complaining about the focus speed during video. It’s slower than any other contrast detect only camera I have ever used. So for some reason Canon chose to make it slow. I don’t think it has anything to do with the AF-system.

Canon have just spent little time or money on their focusing outside of dual pixel. If they still sell the stuff no point in doing so. Point a Canon at anything but the most hard defined cumulus cloud in the sky and it will just not get focus which shows why video is a problem without a fixed reference to latch on to. With my Olympus and Panasonic kit no problem. Olympus used to be awful and the XZ-1 video was beyond awful to the point you had to admire it but Olympus have worked on it. Also the two small centre points or everything modes are rudimentary. Possibly the G5X II has improved on this but I doubt it.

The G7X III and the G5X II had the same problem witch Canon (partially) fixed with a firmware update.

As for the G9X III I don’t expect much of it. If they will release a G9 X III they will probably release it when they run out of Digic 7 processors and the improvements will be the standard Digic 8 improvements: higher fps in continues modes, 4k video, vertical video and a usb-c connector.

I never use continues mode, the video can be 4k but if the focus isn’t good…. And I always use USB charging but if Canon puts in a USB-C socket then a PD-charger is probably required which doesn’t add to the user experience in my opinion.

But I hope I’m wrong.

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