rrc1967
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Re: Regret buying EOS M50
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Max Iso wrote:
rrc1967 wrote:
Max Iso wrote:
rrc1967 wrote:
nonproshooterdad wrote:
M50 sensor is not the same as 80D. Dxomark doesn't have test data for M50 yet. Look at another site called "Photons to Photos", that contains M50 sensor data. Dynamic range is not much different, but ISO is much better in the 80D.
M6 ii is much better sensor from the same site.
not only does it run all the time on the M50 (and mirrorless) but it also has to run at least twice as much. one scan for AF another scan for image.
If this were true, then it would apply to their DSLRs when using LV. Have you tried testing this? I did when i owned my 70D, i compared photos taken in LV with dual pixel, to photos taken through the OVF. No difference. I think your theory is false.The
Sorry it is not a theory. That is simply the way a DPAF sensor works. Canon has described it in many a patent application.
more reason is Canon is notorious for limiting the performance of cameras to match their price point. This can include sensor performance, not just AF. It could even include sensor wiring, like whether they use copper wiring or not.
Oh so they will change the entire sensor architecture to gimp 1/2 EV? and I'm the one with the "theory"?
News flash. Increased processing causes heat more evident in smaller cameras. Increased heat causes an increased noise floor which will reduce DR.
What's more likely is that with the larger bodied DSLRs Canon was able to sink more heat away from the sensor.
Which is a simple answer and solution to why you wouldn't see it on a DSLR liveview because there is less engineering compromises that have to be made.
First you claim it's due to more "scans", now it's due to heat buildup. Well we can test for that too, very easily. Turn the camera on and within the first second, take a photo. Then another shot after you leave the camera on, running, scanning, for what, ten minutes? Half hour?
I never claimed anything, I simply stated for DPAF it has to scan at least twice as much.
here's my statement again, since you seem to be stating something I didn't:
"not only does it run all the time on the M50 (and mirrorless) but it also has to run at least twice as much. one scan for AF another scan for image."
See any claims there?
I simply stated a fact, for DPAF, there has to be one scan for phase difference (ie: AF) and one scan for image. At the minimum, who knows how many scans Canon is doing for AF.
Will that cause a DR / Noise difference. More than likely, it's well proven by folks that use cameras for astronomy that cameras have to be cooled otherwise noise will creep up with exposure and time. Liveview compounds that because you are continually accessing the sensor.
I don't need to prove this to you because we are talking about common knowledge. Look it up in Google.
here you go.. here's a study done.
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/35462879.pdf
have at it.