What do you use alongside your Z?

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Re: What do you use alongside your Z?

beatboxa wrote:

Bridgehouse wrote:

I know this might not seem totally Z related, but I value the opinions of those of you who have invested in the Z mount like me.

The Z7 has been a camera that has got me back into the hobby as strongly as I’ve ever been in the past - I’m a film shooter as well, and I’m shooting as much with the Z7 as I do with film nowadays..

I’ve had a lot of digital cameras in the last 20 years, and for the first time I feel I have one which ticks enough of the boxes to really invest in a system heavily.

However, there’s one area where the Z7 doesn’t fit the bill entirely - and that’s the pocketable carry about camera.

As a film shooter, I’ve got a whole range of cameras I take out and about with me for casual shots - the most used is an old Olympus XA2.

The Z7 gets used for organised days out shooting, portraits, landscapes, a bit of Astro, digitising film, and pretty much any time I’m going out with the intention of spending the day shooting. It’s done museums aplenty, motorsport shooting and all sorts in between.

However, it’s not a camera for slipping in a jacket pocket and casually carrying around for snaps. I’d like a digital so I don’t have to necessarily take a film camera out with me for this purpose.

My criteria:

- Cheap (I want to spend my cash on Z lenses!)

- Fits in a jacket pocket

- Large sensor - at least m43 (not keen on 1” as I tried an RX100 and didn’t like the output)

- Must have a viewfinder/EVF - I just can’t do the whole peering at a screen - I’ve used film compacts for too long..

- New or used, don’t care as long as it’s good quality

- Fixed or interchangeable lens - if it’s an ILC there needs to be a good pancake option to keep the size down

- Reasonable ergonomics - the Z has spoilt me tbh as I love the Nikon way of doing things

What are you guys using as a small compact lightweight cheap travel and pocketable companion to your Z’s?

Which RX100 did you try, and specifically what didn't you like about the output?

The reason I ask is that Physics are against you. I find it interesting that you mentioned a sensor size, but not an aperture. However, both of these are used in concert to determine image quality.

F/1.8-2.8 on a 1" sensor is remarkably similar at most ISOs to F/3.5-5.6 on an APS-C (except for APS-C ISO 100 & 200, where the sensors are the their best anyway). The newer RX100's actually sacrifice light gathering ability for increased zoom, so if you tried these newer ones, you may have tried the wrong ones.

FWIW, my goto system for this was always my Panasonic GM1, pictured here with 2 fast lenses and a set of car keys. It has no viewfinder, but the slightly larger GM5 has one, as do some of the newer cameras of similar size.

The lenses are a 20mm F/1.7 (40mm F/3.5 full-frame equivalent), and 42.5mm F/1.7 (85mm F/3.5 equivalent):

If I was picking a system today though, I'd seriously consider a fixed-lens, 1" sensor with an F/1.8-2.8 lens, which is significantly smaller than the m4/3 ILC and two lenses pictured but pretty close in general.

It's too bad Nikon killed the DL's. Maybe they'll release an even smaller camera than the Z50 to be used with the new pancake 16-50, but I doubt it.

The RX100 was a IV or a V iirc. 
My comment about the output was probably more to do with colour than sensor size to be honest. I really wanted to like it, because size wise it’s perfect - but I just couldn’t get on with the Sony “look”

Aperture vs sensor size is an interesting point - and you are right. If anything the sensor size /aperture question is less about dof for me and more about low light performance - I’d like to be able to use it in low light as much as possible. I’m in the UK - it’s basically dark here 3 months of the year!

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Nikon Z7 Nikon AF-S Micro-Nikkor 60mm F2.8G ED Nikon Z 24-70mm F4 Nikon Z 50mm F1.8
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