Ways to try gear.

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pcrc11 Regular Member • Posts: 354
Re: Ways to try gear.

pforsell wrote:

pcrc11 wrote:

pforsell wrote:

pcrc11 wrote:

riveredger wrote:

pcrc11 wrote:

scrup wrote:

buy from Amazon and return if its not what you expect.

No shame in doing it. Amazon will sell it through their warehouse as open box item. Someone will get a deal, you get to try a lens risk free.

So who eats the loss?? Not only is the retailer out the diminished value of the item but also out the shipping cost both ways. I know, who cares, it is Amazon, surely the biggest retailer in the world can absorb a few dollars without a hurt to their bottom line. However this type of behavior has also crept into all the other online selling platforms where you most likely are dealing with a small individual seller and not a faceless corporation.

This is the cost of doing business in today's world. Note that these companies are not paying for stores and all of the associsted costs.

Shoplifting was considered the "cost of doing business" when you had a brick and mortar store in "yesterdays world". A scumbag is a scumbag no matter how you want to justify it.

Going from testing an item into stealing it seems a bit of a stretch to me.

I wouldn't buy a car without test driving it first. I wouldn't buy a lens without test driving it first. I wouldn't buy a camera without test driving it first.

Because the mail order houses have killed off the brick and mortar stores which used to carry demo samples, the only way to test an item is to get it from the mail order house. And they voluntarily offer free test driving. Those stores that don't won't get my business.

I cannot see the "shoplifting" part in this business transaction between two consenting adults. It is the modern version of the age-old demo-sample try-before-you-buy business model.

The OP was not asking about a test drive. He wants to purchase, use it and return it for a refund and be out no money on his end. That is not a test drive.

I think it is, and fully sanctioned by the mail order house. Why else would they endorse and promote it? You think they do it just to annoy you? I think they do it to please me.

Your "test drive" a car analogy is so far from this it is laughable. Go ask your local car dealer if you can purchase a car on Friday, drive it for the weekend and then bring it back on Monday for a full refund.

Every time I buy a new car my dealer not only lets me drive a demo car (see, local dealer not mail order) for a week. They deliver the demo to my doorstep and pick it up the week later. Similarly they also deliver the purchased vehicle to my house when it has been manufactured and shipped to my country.

Is this arrangement of driving the demo cars and accepting home deliveries also shoplifting? I think not, it is just customer service. Not free, somebody always pays for it, but customer service nonetheless.

I expect similar level of customer service when I'm buying lenses and cameras, and thankfully the big mail order retailers provide just that. Happily and voluntarily. Win win.

A demo is not the actual car you are buying. It is on the lot expressly for the purpose you are talking about and the dealer is willing to absorb that expense and financial loss on that particular car. Dealer wont sell that "demo" as new after you and everybody else has put a few thousand miles on it. Once again your entire premise is not relateable to the OP original query about camera equipment which is sold in entirely different way than automobiles. Here is another question, can anybody off the street walk into the car dealership you speak of and get the same deal as you??? I would imagine not. I am sure they either know you very well from past dealings or you fit a certain demographic they obviously cater to.

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