Is there a need for F1.4 lenses....

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XeroJay
XeroJay Senior Member • Posts: 2,310
Re: DOF for the photographer or the client?

fferreres wrote:

XeroJay wrote:

fferreres wrote:

XeroJay wrote:

Luis Gabriel Photography wrote:

Magnar W wrote:

Philnw2 wrote:

There is an interesting figure in the article showing bokeh from an f1.8 lens to an f1.4 lens, and the f1.4 lens is superior

One interesting moment that is not mentioned, is that customers rarely want these extreme shallow dof portraits, with one eye sharp, the other a bit blurry, and the nose tip out of focus.

I don't understand why is it that so many people the first thing they think about when talking about fast lenses is having one eye in focus look...while many of my clients like that very "dramatic" look of just the eyes in focus, for me the most useful part of fast glass is when doing half or full body shots while allowing me to make the subject pop out of the background when desired.

Totally agree. I often do group shots of 10 or more people wide open, as is provides a pop that separates the group from the background, and you can't get that with slower lenses.

What are you talking about, Willis? A group shot at f1.2 or f1.4 is a trainwreck!!! This is the PERFECT book example of the worst possible scenario to use an f1.2 lens. Always. Having to tell people to temporarily join the Cirque Du Soleil crew and try all to lay in a razor thin focal plane, or have some people that from very far all look good then get a bot closer and half the people are totally OOF.

I find it ironic that you opened your argument with "what are you taking about Willis?" Before spouting a bunch of nonsensical verbiage about Cirque Du Soleil and having to tell people things...I guess you just don't get it. That's fine.

BTW, it's "what you talkin 'bout Willis?".

Well, I listened to it in TWO different languages, none of them English, and translated into what would would it have probably be correctly written in English. I never, even once, hear it in English, and I find your correction beyond hilarious. I basically translated from memory, from other languages, something I heard maybe 30 years ago 7 times, and you make a correction about how to write slang in English - note also, I never heard the original pronunciation. I delights me to read your correction.

Odd that you choose that 30-something year old obscured quote then.

I will be less subtle. You are calling other people less professional indirectly, pretending to be head of them, while at the same time, you are proposing using a very wide opening for group portrait photography. I don't need to add anything else than say, everyone's free to to what works best for them...

Never once called others less professional; again you're making that up. I never proposed others attempt my style of photography and/or my techniques. In fact, I said that's what I do, but I also said that I understand why others may have differing priorities. I never once even hinted that I'm, as you claim, ahead of them.

It's actually you who called my technique a "train wreck", so is that you claiming to be ahead of me?

At this point, you're twisting everything I say, so good day to you.

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