dpreviewTV: EF-M 22mm F2 not "ideal" for the M6 Mk II?

RLight wrote:

nnowak wrote:

RLight wrote:

The latest RF 50mm, 85mm f/1.2L's have no peer (f/1.2 lens with that high of performance). Or for that matter, how many other mfgs have f/1.2 primes? Not many. They often stop at f/1.4.

You seem to be forgetting that Nikon even exists. Their Z roadmap lists 35mm f/1.2, 50mm f/1.2 and 85mm f/1.2

I'll be (very) happy if Nikon does this, or even survives to be blunt. Competition is good, but, IMO, Nikon's future is very uncertain.

Nikon's future is no less uncertain than Canon's.  Nikon put the brakes on the overabundance of bottom feeder DSLR models years before Canon.  Nikon appears to be heading towards a single mirrorless mount for all sensor formats.  I am not suggesting Canon is going to fail, but Nikon has been making some smarter long term moves than Canon.  I think Nikon's financials have already hit bottom, but I think Canon still has some more pain ahead.

Nobody, has a 11-24 f/4L.

Sony has the FE 12-24mm f/4.0 G and Fuji has an equivalent XF 8-16mm f/2.8. If you are bragging about the lens being 1mm wider than the competition, you had better take a look at the image quality at 11mm first.

They do. It's not 11mm. EF mount is going to be less than stellar on the wide end in the corners due to the flange benefit the FE has... I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts if DXO does a benchmark on both the 11-24 and the Sony 12-24, the Canon will be center-sharper, and the Sony 12-24 will be corner sharper.

Sounds like you agree the Sony is the better extreme wide angle zoom.

I'm also willing to bet dollars to donuts the RF 15-35 f/2.8L won't have a peer when tested which will have the flange benefit of RF mount.

Until Nikon launches their 14-24mm f/2.8

Canon's great whites?

Have you seen the Nikon PF Telephotos? In case you weren't aware, PF is Nikon's version of Canon's DO. And how many years did it take before Canon finally built some wide angle lenses that weren't garbage? For a very long time, Nikon ruled the wide angles and Canon ruled the telephotos, but that was years ago. There will be plenty of professionals on the sidelines of the upcoming summer Olympics shooting with Nikon and Sony telephoto lenses.

I'm well aware. Now Canon rules both.

No, they don't.  If Canon is as fantastic as you claim, why are such a significant number of photographers shooting with Nikon?

Beg to differ, ahem.

I am not trying to disparage Canon glass, but you seem to be completely unaware of the fantastic lenses being produced by other manufacturers.

Sigma makes some fine glass, if you ask me. As does Sony and Nikon. But, you've failed to demonstrate how, today, they have more breadth, and depth in offerings. Not yesterday, not tomorrow, today.

Sony has far more mirrorless lenses than Nikon and Canon combined and many are truly excellent.  Where is the Canon equivalent to the Nikon 200-500mm f/5.6 or the Nikon 120-300mm f/2.8?

You have to gather although Nikon and Sony will continue to "catch up", Canon won't be standing still. In the same way as Canon "catches up" with sensors, neither will Sony stand still in that same period.

For mirrorless, both Canon and Nikon are playing catch up.