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dpreviewTV: EF-M 22mm F2 not "ideal" for the M6 Mk II?

Started Sep 20, 2019 | Discussions thread
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Re: This whole lens resolution business is pot calling kettle black...
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RLight wrote:

nnowak wrote:

By only shooting with Canon, you are not fully aware of the capabilities of other systems. RLight wrote:

nnowak wrote:

RLight wrote:

nnowak wrote:

First, what do Sony lenses have to do with the ability of EF-M lenses to resolve 32mp?

Simple. If you're going to grade a compact lens on performance, grade it against others in class.

DPReviews comments had nothing to do with Sony or any other mirrorless system. Their comments on lens resolution were in regards to the difference between an M6 and an M6 II.

True. But, this is another what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. DPR and DPR TV have a way of being inconsistent with reviews

That is your opinion, and as was recently shown, it is an opinion based on inaccurate information. How many posts did you make railing against DPReview claiming an anti-Canon bias because you believed Canon had a zero blackout EVF and Canon had it long before Sony?

True, I'm not perfect. I also acknowledged that point as I wasn't aware of the differences, which I was made aware.

and this although a logical segue they’re doing on questioning the 22 resolving power in the wake of a super resolution sensor,

The M6 II is currently the highest pixel density interchangeable lens camera available. Scaled up to full frame, this would be an 84mp sensor. The M6 II is even more dense than the 20mp m4/3 sensors. Questioning the resolving power of the EF-M lenses seems like a perfectly legitimate exercise, and is something reviewers have done whenever any system has made a significant jump in resolution.

should’ve been asked of those less powerful Sony lenses against the less resolution 24MP sensors.

Here is a direct quote from DPReview taken from this page

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/0072788087/should-i-buy-the-sony-a6400-here-s-how-it-compares?slide=2

"It's also worth considering that Sony will be selling a kit that bundles the a6400 with its recent 18-135mm zoom. It costs more and is larger than the 16-50mm power zoom but covers a wider range (albeit without such wide-angle capability), and has the advantage of not being the weakest kit lens on the market."

I don't know about you, but that sounds pretty critical of a Sony lens.

It’s not. Because the Canon is fodder here in getting the treatment first it’s pertinent to give context of other options that you have (the OP) as that context is lacking in the discussion.

The context is lenses that will make the most of a 32mp sensor. The OP said nothing about Sony or any of the Sony lenses you dug up on DXO.

Other non-Canon options are more lens-limited.

How so? All other current systems have far more than 7 native lenses available.

I’m going to go out on and limb and say Nikon, Sony and Fuji, the other APS-C players will not have the same question asked.

None of those systems are near the pixel density of the M6 II and all of those systems are using slightly larger sensors. Scaled up to a 1.5X crop format, this would be a 35.8mp sensor. If any of those systems suddenly make the jump to 36mp, I am sure the reviewers will be questioning the lens lineups.

And, that’s dirty brand politics being played by DPR. It’s a peeve of mine when that sort of thing happens, as it does around here.

The "dirty brand politics" sounds a bit slanderous and is just your opinion. I realize that you are loyal to Canon, but I believe that years of loyalty have clouded your judgement. Because you only shoot with Canon, you do not examine the reviews of other brands products as closely as you would a Canon review, or you don't read the other reviews at all. Sony and all of the other brands get plenty of criticism in the reviews here on DPReview, you're just not seeing it. Also, by only shooting with Canon, you are not fully aware of the capabilities of other systems. Every system has pluses and minuses. Without owning other systems, it is very difficult to appreciate the pluses of other systems. It seems that every person making the claim that DPReview has an anti-Canon bias is someone who has been using Canon gear exclusively for years and years.

Not true:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63107712

I truly apologize if my response comes off as too harsh as that is not my intent.

Quite. But, I've known you for some time. I personally won't be letting off the gas of giving correct context, to DPR narrative I disagree with, which others share the sentiment of. And, I'll continue stubbing my toes as any person would along the way.

Let me flip this on you:

Why are you still on the M forum?

yes, a true mystery

Honestly. You're here, critiquing my responses, on a forum that is not your primary platform (it's Fuji).

they wouldn't allow this behavior on the Fuji forum

this forum is not being moderated

Not being mean, just a curiosity I've had since you sold off most of your Canon goods.

a Fuji shill?

Are you considering coming back, just being helpful, or you like to debate? Any are fine answers.

not being helpful

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