DXO: m4/3 vs. FF -- we have it good!

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Pixnat2
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Re: Diversity

Jacques Cornell wrote:

Pixnat2 wrote:

Aaron801 wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Jacques Cornell wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

All the new cameras keep the same image quality standard more or less in m43 - comparable to what happened 8+ years ago

let that sink in for a second

this means any competitor with a bigger sensor at similar price and weight would seem like a better proposition, right?

its a bit like an attempt to market current products comparing them to years old competitors tech not sure this is a winning proposal
But hey, some people think there’s not much difference vs current competitor tech, so have to give you credit for not doing that.

The vast majority of people never print bigger than 8x10, and even at 16x24 there's almost no perceptible difference between MFT and larger formats. If you're never going to perceive the difference, why pay and carry more?

Some people perceive a difference, but we can make the same argument for cell phones and 1'' sensor cameras. Of course, when that's brought up all of a sudden there's a difference, and m43rds matters.

Arguing that most folks need more than MFT is like arguing in the film days that most people needed medium format. Most people did not buy medium format. Not even most pros.

Again, how convenient to stop at m43rds as the minimum sufficient most will care :-). Of course, the market contracting so bad tells a different story.

For a lot of folks m43 is the sweet spot in terms of format. Smaller leaves sonething to be desired and larger isn't necessary...

And

For a lot of folks APS-C is the sweet spot in terms of format. Smaller leaves sonething to be desired and larger isn't necessary...

For a lot of folks FF is the sweet spot in terms of format. Smaller leaves sonething to be desired and larger isn't necessary...

Today, the largest "lot of folks" is the APS-C folks and the smallest is m43.

Actually, the largest "lot of folks" is phone camera folks.

Of course, but it's not new. Compact P&S and now phones have always sold in much greater numbers.

I was speaking about ILC system only.

Anyway, all those folks are different and all have good and valid reasons.

Sadly, on this forum, we always see discussion schemes like this :

  • "My m43 camera is very good, compared to other systems"
  • "Yes, but other systems are better in some areas"
  • "Can't we just be happy with m43?"
  • "You can, but don't bash others"
  • "It was not me first, but you!"
  • "No, it's the opposite!"
  • "FF is cr@p!"
  • "M43 is cr@p!"

It leads to nothing but noise.

If we accept that diversity is good and we respect other people's choice, we'll become able to discuss.

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