200-500 and 200-400 moving forward, e.g., Z.

Started Aug 17, 2019 | Discussions thread
owlseye Regular Member • Posts: 234
Re: 200-500 and 200-400 moving forward, e.g., Z.

olindacat wrote:

owlseye wrote:

If you look at the EXIF on the pictures, one was shot at 400mm (that was by me) and the other was shot at 500mm (by my wife). I was using the 2 to 4 and she was using the 2 to 5. Both are sharp, but my photo exhibits better micro-contrast. Note, I did the post work on both images and processed them in the same way.

I looked at your website and can see you have spent a lot of time trying to evaluable these two lenses, as well as comparing to your 500, Bruce. Very thoughtful and well done!

Does that little owl visit you often? I looks like you have some kind of bone or stick on your fence to get it to come and visit you! Really cool. I love owls, and once saw one in peril on the street, on Maui of all places. It actually let me pick it up! I put in my back seat and brought it straight to a veterinarian. She took it (the owl) in and told me it would be okay. I never followed up, but think it might have hurt it's leg.

I am a biology teacher and the owl in the test is a mounted owl for educational purposes (in other words... dead). It is a perfect subject for assessing sharpness.

In any event, my post is because I have a line on a 200-400 for 1700. It is a goof VR1 (looking in photos, I wouldn't know until I had in my hands and sow what it does), and for what, 1200 used can get the 200-500. Been reading all I can on both and what gets me is why you and your wife aren't both shooting the 200-500?

The 200-500 is an excellent lens for the money, but I shoot more than my wife and shoot throughout the winter. She will only shoot winter subjects if I can put her on something unique. As such, build quality impacts me more than her. In addition, the AF on the 200-400 is faster, the 200-400 is f/4 w/ a beautiful bokeh, and it has better contrast (edge sharpness) in the range I typically shoot. Finally, I have the 500 PFE too.

I have to think you can afford two 200-500s, so the 200-400 must be worth hauling and keeping and using, and micro contrast I must confess is not a term I use often, and will look it up, but imagine (having adjust contrast in PS for 20 years) it has to do with contrast :-), and that is often important... there must be value there.

see above... been using the 200-400 since 2014 and like it for tripod-based photography.

Thom, in his long review, http://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/nikon-lens-reviews/nikkor-zoom-lens-reviews/nikon-200-400mm-f4g-af-s.html doesn't sound extremely enthusiastic about this. lens, and it is not dated, so I'm not sure if this 200-500 (in his mind, which I imagine is pretty informed) eclipses the 200-400, or not!

He leads me to believe 30-yards and in are ideal. The focus motor is faster and AF better as it lets in more light.

I think this is a lens dependent thing. Mine seems to be sharp, especially when using my D500 or Z6

If you are shooting far away birds, the 200-400 loses umph when it is trying to get farther that 100 yards away things, right?

For a shot like this, I'd use my fixed 500mm lens w/ on of my D500's

The 200-500 I read is good 200-300, edges lose acuity at 500, but in focus at 500. Is the 200-500 more versatile and giving you as good quality? It must be if you are using it, or so I imagine.

Really have to think the older 200-400 isn't as new as the 200-500, and weather sealing aside (I read in your site how it has managed to survive the elements), tank build, and micro-contrast, speedy motor, am I going up the vp the valuable 100mm of added reach for a sharper edge?

The 200-500 has the best quality per dollar spent (think value), but it is not as sharp, fast to focus, or weather resistant as the pro-line glass.

Oh... and thanks for all of the nice comments about my site... I did a thorough comparison of the two lenses while in Florida in 2015... here is that blog post: http://btleventhal.com/bruceleventhal/2016/3/23/the-6200-question

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regards,
bruce

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