Do Fujinon XF F1.2 and F1.4 prime lenses need a 'revamp'?

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Re: Do Fujinon XF F1.2 and F1.4 prime lenses need a 'revamp'?
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Victoria Marshall wrote:

lélé wrote:

Hello!

Fujifilm provided us with 'fast' prime lenses in the early life of the Fujifilm X system:

  • Fujinon XF 16mmF1.4 R WR
  • Fujinon XF 23mmF1.4 R
  • Fujinon XF 35mmF1.4 R
  • Fujinon XF 56mmF1.2 R (APD)

Lenses with sometimes quite unique specifications.

Since, Fujifilm has made gigantic progress regarding his bodies, in particular regarding autofocus, continuous autofocus, video features (who would have guessed Fujifilm would provide a video powerhouse like the X-T3 just a few years ago?).

Fujifilm also has to fight against a strong competition, with Sony, Panasonic, Canon and Nikon which all going for FF mirrorless.

Even if I love my Fujinon primes lenses, I think some of them scream for a 'revamp'. In particular the XF 56mmF1.2 R whose optical quality is good but not great (bokeh is not very nice at the widest apertures) and it's AF motorization not suited for continuous AF, or the XF35mmF1.4 R which has a very nice rendering full open but may be better corrected and suffers from the same outdated AF motorization.

Also, with video comes new requirements like the absence of focus breathing and more discret motor noise.

What do you think?

Do you think Fujifilm needs to refresh the XF F1.2 and F1.4 lenses?

Thanks for your opinion.

Fred

No. I'm sorry, but if you bought the 56 1.2 for continuous, or even 'competitive' autofocus speeds, then you bought the wrong lens. It's a niche lens designed for portraiture.

That's why I bought the 50 f2. Much more versatile.

My 16 f1.4 is still as awesome to me as the day I bought it. It's better wide open than any Nikkor I've owned in the past, and autofocus is plenty zippy for me.

I agree that the Fujinon XF 50mmF2 R WR may be a more versatile lens thanks to its better autofocus performances.

That said, I'm not sure it is only due to its smaller aperture. I think it may also be due to the fact it's a more recent lens, designed with other requirements in mind. It is very likely the Fujinon XF 56mmF1.2 R was designed in a time when Fujifilm's X-T3 impressive specifications were probably not even a Fujifilm's engineer dream. ;;)

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I would not call the Fujinon XF 56mmF1.2 R lens 'a niche lens'. It's 85mm f/1.8 full frame equivalent and I'm pretty sure this is no coincidence! 85mm f1/8 are popular lenses, not 'niche lenses'.

IMO 'a niche lens' would have been a 85mm f/1.4 or f/1.2 equivalent, with a several thousands euros price and a weight around the kilogram.

It is an impressive achievement that Fujifilm managed to design and produce a 'true' 85mm f/1.8 equivalent for APS-C format, with an outstanding f/1.2 aperture !

And I do agree that this is a lens mainly aimed at portraiture.

But I also think that:

  • You can use a 85mm f/1.8 (or equivalent here) for much more than portraiture. this is as  a short telephoto with fast aperture that can be used for many other things (not apprehensive animals, some indoor sport, etc.).
  • Modern cameras likes the X-T3 or the A7III bring reliable continuous autofocus and eye AF. You may like or not this feature, but it opens the possibility to do portraits of moving subjects. Something that would be extremely difficult (and, IMO, often more a matter of luck than skill) without this features. But to be able to benefit from that, you need a lens with fast AF!
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