Peter Lik

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Teila Day
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Re: What Most Folks Miss...

lilBuddha wrote:

Teila Day wrote:

Bill Ferris wrote:

Whether we're talking about his photos of Horseshoe Bend, Antelope Canyon, various night skyscape compositions or other of his photos, Lik has lead the public infatuation with a variety of locations and subjects. Most anybody who's visited and photographed these places in the last decade, whether they know it or not, have been influenced in those decisions by Mr. Lik.

I was thinking that most people shooting the canyons would've been shooting the canyon(s) irrespective of his work with the plethora of photographs of the popular Canyons and other points of interest posted online.

A second point most comments have missed is Mr. Lik's skill at building and maintaining his personal brand.

Absolutely. Photography is about business first as far as I'm concerned... if you have that Lik'd (couldn't help myself) then you'll realize a palatable profit irrespective of your level of expertise.

Lik understands better than most that the reason a person will pay 10s of millions of dollars for a Picasso is, it's a Picasso.

I think he understands it like most people understand it... An original Picasso sells for what it does because it's an investment blessed by discerning individuals who heavily invest in art. Nothing against Mr. Lik, but I don't think he's in that category yet but I hope he hits a home run in that context.

I do not. As much as I like marketing outside the confines of the established art world, I'd prefer it done more honestly.

Marketing outside of the establishment isn't dishonest by default.  It's business... No different than some car guy going on and on about how about how an exotic motorcar will increase in value... when most depreciate; but nothing wrong with artificial markets to keep/drive prices up.  Again- that's business.

Lady Gaga understands the value of personal brand.

Fact.

Andy Warhol was the master of personal brand and that was generations before a phrase had been coined to identify that concept.

Not a stretch, and practically a true statement.

Peter Lik understands and masters personal brand, as well.

Again.. Fact.

Agreed

Not agreed.

You don't have to agree with truth, but that doesn't change the truth.

My father doesn't listen to contemporary music, but he's heard of Gaga.

Many who listen to contemporary music haven't heard of Gaga.

He doesn't like "modern" art, but he knows of Warhol.

Many don't know Warhol or any well-known artist by their art for that matter.

He does like photography, but he's never heard of Lik. Whilst anecdote ≠ anecdata, I'd wager Lik's penetration into the collective consciousness is not very deep.

I agree..  because most people don't know artists (outside of what's been rehashed to death in secondary school) dead or alive.

This isn't some guy "appealing to the masses and making a few bucks." His photography has established trends the public and other photographers embrace. He's also built a personal image and brand thay support an elite pricing structure for his product: himself.

To me he does very well at appealing to the masses and making a lot of bucks (excellent by the way) just like McDonald's or Chick-fil-a.

People pays tens of thousands for his prints, not because the photos are demonstrably better than all others - though his customers undoubtedly hold them in high regard, it's because the prints are Peter Liks.

Those buying his prints (probably) don't make up same market as those hunting down and backdoor trading to acquire a particular Picasso. Two different socioeconomic demographics I'd say.

Well, no. Whilst it is true that most people cannot afford Picasso, the art market contains nearly every range of collectible price.

I didn't mention the "art market" at large.  I was very specific and factual.

And socio-economic status is not just two points on a graph, but every point on the line between.

The example given was exactly two points on a graph and arguably polar opposite.

Collecting art for value is a gamble, but if one accepts that gamble, there are loads of choice within established paths that have better chance of succeeding than buying a Peter Lik.

Caveat emptor, for certain, but that doesn't mean shady marketing gets a pass.

Shady marketing is one thing.... but plain ole' common sense defying marketing isn't any more shady than some grubby guy at a Fair telling you to step-right-up and take a crack at winning a $2 teddy bear for $10 worth of tickets in order to make the attempt at winning... again, that's not shady, it's just so fiscally ridiculous that it's considered 'carnival' (figuratively and actually).

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